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Leejo2005 Member

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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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+1 for the dead guy _________________ 2010 Cobalt LT
1999 Taurus SHO
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Alphius Peanut

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 2429 Location: Grand Mound
1984 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Dead guy rocks.
Chemical stripper is what my Dad used on Mom's Chevelle. It was called Tal-Strip, and made a huge mess. The paint doesn't even just fall off the car like it's supposed to, you still gotta work at it to get it all done. Then the crap gets stuck in body lines and seams and is big trouble to get all of it off the car.
Better method, how about scuff what's there and primer over it? Make it layer 7. There aren't really a ton of benefits to stripping the car completely before painting. With that much paint though, I bet you could really get some extra weight reduction by sanding it all off.  _________________ 84 Camaro Z28 - LS1/T56
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:58 am Post subject: |
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An off topic note: the Costco near my house had several pallets of Dead Guy and Rogue's American Amber on sale; $23 for a 24 bottle case. I bought three.
My main goal in wanting to go to metal is to see how much bondo there is. So far it doesn't look bad, just skim coat $h*t, not big gobs. I'm not discounting the weight thing either. Ferrari did it on the F40.  |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Killer deadguy price! _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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Alphius Peanut

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 2429 Location: Grand Mound
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:49 am Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | My main goal in wanting to go to metal is to see how much bondo there is. |
Yeah, that was a lot of the reason dad went to metal on the Chevelle, to see what the last 40 years of incompetent body guys had managed to screw up. Luckily it was mostly OK except for the quarter panel that had been welded in a little too hot and wavy. _________________ 84 Camaro Z28 - LS1/T56
85 Silverado - Low and Slow |
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | An off topic note: the Costco near my house had several pallets of Dead Guy and Rogue's American Amber on sale; $23 for a 24 bottle case. I bought three. |
How's that off topic?!?!  _________________ '86 Trans Am - 5.0L TPI - LT1 cam - 700R4 - WS6
'85 Camaro Berlinetta - IROC clone
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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So I started following the skim coated sections with the DA, and well... they made like the Grand Canyon and got deep fast. I ain't gonna lie guys, it's real real bad:
Hard to see all the morbid detail in those dirty pics, but both the front fender and rear quarter were totally caved at some point. The rear bumper was replaced at some point, it has less paint than the rest of the car.
I was standing there thinking that by the time I replaced that front fender, rewelded the passenger rocker panel, replaced the floors, and then had to figure out what the eff to do about that rear quarter, this chassis really isn't worth it. Plus if I yank all the goodies and crush it I won't have to worry about moving it for the fourth time.
So glad I did this before doing anything to the chassis other than underhood paint.  |
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Is the pink layer Bondo?  _________________ '86 Trans Am - 5.0L TPI - LT1 cam - 700R4 - WS6
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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No, John, it's cotton candy.  |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Something a bit quicker then a da when you have thick stuff to get off like bondo.. Use a straight rotary polisher with a 36grit sanding pad.. It will really make the bondo fly. It works on paint too, but you have to be careful or you can put too much heat in the panel. Also some paints will just melt and make a mess instead of sanding. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I was using a Norton Rapid Strip disc on my angle grinder to knock out the bondo. It was sparking a bit on the raw metal though, so when I got most of it cleaned off I switched to the DA with 60 grit on it. Problem is the DA doesn't like all the dips from their hammering, thus the splotchiness in the pics. |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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minijensen Member

Joined: 15 Jul 2011 Posts: 101 Location: bonney lake, WA
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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| RSFreak wrote: | Is the pink layer Bondo?  |
media blasting i've seen pink,blue,green,gray,and tan bondo |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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@ Ian: Yeah I know. There's also two other t-top cars under 1K on CL right now. I'll wait till after I've moved and settled into a new shop before I buy anything.
@ jensen: This stuff is actually tan. The pink is from the red sanding dust. |
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minijensen Member

Joined: 15 Jul 2011 Posts: 101 Location: bonney lake, WA
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| what color will it end up being? |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Whatever color the Kia factory is shooting that day. |
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minijensen Member

Joined: 15 Jul 2011 Posts: 101 Location: bonney lake, WA
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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that works  |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | Whatever color the Kia factory is shooting that day. |
You mean whatever color Henry Ford wants?
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hey now, they make black Kias. It could happen.  |
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Alphius Peanut

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 2429 Location: Grand Mound
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Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:57 am Post subject: |
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I believe you may have found out why the gas cap doesn't line up...
It looked pretty straight before you started sanding. Somebody did some decent looking bodywork. (but not good bodywork because they filled that sucker up good with Bondo!)
You know you want a hardtop.  _________________ 84 Camaro Z28 - LS1/T56
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