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Can it be? (Part 1)
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Leejo2005
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

+1 for the dead guy
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dead guy rocks.

Chemical stripper is what my Dad used on Mom's Chevelle. It was called Tal-Strip, and made a huge mess. The paint doesn't even just fall off the car like it's supposed to, you still gotta work at it to get it all done. Then the crap gets stuck in body lines and seams and is big trouble to get all of it off the car.

Better method, how about scuff what's there and primer over it? Make it layer 7. Laughing There aren't really a ton of benefits to stripping the car completely before painting. With that much paint though, I bet you could really get some extra weight reduction by sanding it all off. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

An off topic note: the Costco near my house had several pallets of Dead Guy and Rogue's American Amber on sale; $23 for a 24 bottle case. I bought three. Very Happy

My main goal in wanting to go to metal is to see how much bondo there is. So far it doesn't look bad, just skim coat $h*t, not big gobs. I'm not discounting the weight thing either. Ferrari did it on the F40. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killer deadguy price!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
My main goal in wanting to go to metal is to see how much bondo there is.


Yeah, that was a lot of the reason dad went to metal on the Chevelle, to see what the last 40 years of incompetent body guys had managed to screw up. Laughing Luckily it was mostly OK except for the quarter panel that had been welded in a little too hot and wavy.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
An off topic note: the Costco near my house had several pallets of Dead Guy and Rogue's American Amber on sale; $23 for a 24 bottle case. I bought three. Very Happy


How's that off topic?!?! Laughing

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I started following the skim coated sections with the DA, and well... they made like the Grand Canyon and got deep fast. I ain't gonna lie guys, it's real real bad:





Hard to see all the morbid detail in those dirty pics, but both the front fender and rear quarter were totally caved at some point. The rear bumper was replaced at some point, it has less paint than the rest of the car.

I was standing there thinking that by the time I replaced that front fender, rewelded the passenger rocker panel, replaced the floors, and then had to figure out what the eff to do about that rear quarter, this chassis really isn't worth it. Plus if I yank all the goodies and crush it I won't have to worry about moving it for the fourth time.

So glad I did this before doing anything to the chassis other than underhood paint. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the pink layer Bondo? Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, John, it's cotton candy. Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something a bit quicker then a da when you have thick stuff to get off like bondo.. Use a straight rotary polisher with a 36grit sanding pad.. It will really make the bondo fly. It works on paint too, but you have to be careful or you can put too much heat in the panel. Also some paints will just melt and make a mess instead of sanding.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was using a Norton Rapid Strip disc on my angle grinder to knock out the bondo. It was sparking a bit on the raw metal though, so when I got most of it cleaned off I switched to the DA with 60 grit on it. Problem is the DA doesn't like all the dips from their hammering, thus the splotchiness in the pics.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Cough*

http://cascadecrew.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=8689

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RSFreak wrote:
Is the pink layer Bondo? Shocked

media blasting i've seen pink,blue,green,gray,and tan bondo
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Ian: Yeah I know. There's also two other t-top cars under 1K on CL right now. I'll wait till after I've moved and settled into a new shop before I buy anything.

@ jensen: This stuff is actually tan. The pink is from the red sanding dust.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what color will it end up being?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever color the Kia factory is shooting that day.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that works Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
Whatever color the Kia factory is shooting that day.


You mean whatever color Henry Ford wants?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey now, they make black Kias. It could happen. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe you may have found out why the gas cap doesn't line up... Laughing

It looked pretty straight before you started sanding. Somebody did some decent looking bodywork. (but not good bodywork because they filled that sucker up good with Bondo!)

You know you want a hardtop. Wink

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