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nonsensekid20
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:20 pm    Post subject: Heater Control vaccum Reply with quote

Is there a vaccum canister somewhere that creates vaccum for the heat controller?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Heater Control vaccum Reply with quote

nonsensekid20 wrote:
that creates vaccum for the heat controller?


Yup. Big gasoline powered one. Can't miss it. Wink

More specifically, there is a reservoir canister on the driver's side under either the evap can or the battery (depending on year and model).
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Heater Control vaccum Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
More specifically, there is a reservoir canister on the driver's side under either the evap can or the battery (depending on year and model).


Looks like this one, but probably a lot dirtier Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OH! That's what that thing's for! I wasn't sure. hahahah.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you route it?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have cruise control in the car? If so, you'll have to tee the cruise off of this same system.

You need to tap manifold vacuum somewhere, probably on a NPT port in an intake runner, or on the bottom of the carb somewhere. Do not tap into brakes, distributor advance, or ported vacuum signal.

Run a line up somewhere convenient, then tee it. One end to the reservoir, and the other end to the plastic vacuum hardline coming out of the wiring harness somewhere near the heater box.

You'll also need a check valve, your car originally had one that was a check valve and a tee both (Chevy was paying attention) but it may be long gone. Junkyard or Help aisle for that part.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a picture of said check valve, not mine but same type. Mine is hooked to full manifold vacuum. In this picture, the left side is hooked to manifold vacuum (or base of carb), the right side goes to to heater controls. The tee in the valve (coming toward you in the pic) goes to vacuum reservoir in driver side fender, and if equipped, cruise control.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll have to dig around in some boxes. I don't remember seeing any of that. Laughing

Can I hook a vaccum line straight up to an open port on my carb?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nonsensekid20 wrote:
Can I hook a vaccum line straight up to an open port on my carb?


In theory. Problem is every time the vacuum drops off, the heater doors will slam back into defrost.

Also note that you can run a universal check valve, and a universal tee, and not have to find that specific GM unit.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I find a vaccum port where? On the manifold? As you might have noticed already, I need help.. hahaha
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, no cruise control btw.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote






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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure you have have those check valves, back fire with blow vacuum lines off or blow a vacuum servo and make the car run like crap. and that happen to me twice. in my turbo car a put heavier check valves and super glued the vacuum lines together.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm hanging on to this thread! I think I removed half that stuff not understanding what it did! Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah same. the new harness for ac delete doesnt have a vacuum tube.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The vacuum tube does not come from the HVAC harness, it comes from the large harness coming up through the passenger wheelwell. Unless someone cut it off specifically, it will be in there somewhere. It's black plastic hardline, so it tends to look like a ground wire until you try to bend it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah i took that out. i'll have to dig around.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha... a cut-n-run guy, eh? Laughing

Worst case scenario you can dig around behind the dash and just splice in. The vacuum line is purple on the back of the HVAC control and it turns black before it dives into the harness IIRC.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
The vacuum tube does not come from the HVAC harness, it comes from the large harness coming up through the passenger wheelwell. Unless someone cut it off specifically, it will be in there somewhere. It's black plastic hardline, so it tends to look like a ground wire until you try to bend it.


Is that how nonAC cars run it? My vacuum lines came through the firewall right below the heater core tubes (ish).

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i ditched that stupid heater valve 10 years ago and have never had an isssue. id definetly recomend it to everyone, it also looks far better with it gone.
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