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GM quality issues strike me down

 
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QwkTrip
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:05 pm    Post subject: GM quality issues strike me down Reply with quote

So I get my most serious buyer yet for the Camaro and the check engine light comes on during the test drive. Shocked That's never happened before. I whip out my scanner and find out it's the rear O2 sensor picking up on catalytic converter inefficiency. I do some research on the internet and find out that GM has a rash of failures of the catalytic converter and there is a rework program. Thanks GM.... I probably lost the buyer now. Rolling Eyes

I'm going to call the dealer and see if they will change the cats for free because I probably still qualify. I'm going to weigh some other options like eliminating cats altogether. If I were keeping this car it would get long tube headers and dual exhaust. But I have to keep reminding myself to keep it inexpensive.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't the rear O2 on those cars be deleted with a resistor?
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QwkTrip
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, but the problem doesn't go away just because you ignore it. It serves a good purpose to let you know when the CAT is a problem.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My point was that for the price of two resistors and some pipe, the cats could not be a problem. Cool

However, if you can get new cats for free from Chebbie, all the better.
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RSFreak
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
My point was that for the price of two resistors and some pipe, the cats could not be a problem. Cool


Particularly if you are selling it. You can actually buy "emulators" but I think they are just resistors as Aaron stated. Cool

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Being almost a 10 year old car you have to question if investing anymore money in it is a wise financial decision.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you don't realize this car literally is a financial investment to make me money.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news. The dealer took the car in this morning with good faith that they would replace cats for free if that's how they diagnosed the problem. Now we'll just have to wait and see how they diagnose the problem....
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QwkTrip wrote:
Maybe you don't realize this car literally is a financial investment to make me money.


Exactly why you shouldn't dump a ton of money into it! Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's official, 2 new cats for free. Very Happy

But that's not the end of the story. Turns out the technical service bulliten was good for 10 years or 120K miles, whichever is first. I look at the in service date of the car and 10 years is December 7.... as in this Tuesday. Am I lucky or what??? Get down and Boogie!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Way to cut it close!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd call that a lucky break.
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