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TurdGen1989
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:47 pm    Post subject: Problem Reply with quote

ok well this morning i went out to start my car and it turned over for a while and did start. I tried again and it wont even turn over ... even right now i have it hooked up to the battery charger i turn the key on and the volts are right at 13 on the gauge and still nothing:????

any suggestions?

oh and my starter/ solenoid is only like 2 months old

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject: Gauges on cluster are incurate. Reply with quote

Gauges pmc;uster are incurate. 13 volts but how many Amps. You need to let it charge for a while thent ry and start it
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i let it sit on it for like 20 minutes and still nothing?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing meaning it turns over but no fire or meaning that it just clicks without anything else?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, so it turned over and started, and now it wont crank at all, and you somehow suspect the battery died?

I'd be looking at bad connections at the batt hot and starter, VATS, bad P/N switch (or in gear Razz). Takes a lot to kill a battery.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea it did it this morning it turned over fine but now nothing ... i left the charger on it for like 20 minutes and then tried jumping it.. there is no security light its in park.. idk what the hell is going on?



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Battery Charger Reply with quote

Battery charges take alone time charge a battery. Hours.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about fuses? Could those do it if ones blown?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fuses shouldn't cause a no-crank issue.

If the battery has enough juice to give you lights and gauges, then it would have enough juice to at least give you a weak crank, or a solenoid click. Also, it verifies 12V from the batt to the main starter lug.

Check if the trigger (fat purple) wire to the solenoid is hot when cranking.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea it had plenty of juice .. but nothing and this has never been a problem b4
Sad

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to check that the line to the solenoid has power. If that line "has juice" as you say, then the solenoid is shot.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just fixed a problem like that....

mine was the wire to the starter had 12v but it was so corroded on the inside it didn't even turn the starter over..so you should check that

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

popballz wrote:
I just fixed a problem like that....

mine was the wire to the starter had 12v but it was so corroded on the inside it didn't even turn the starter over..so you should check that


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might be a vats problem. i had a problem a similar issuewith my 1991 firebird. somtimes my car would turn over fine and somtimes not at all. i replaced the starter, battery,and battery cables ignition stitch and it turned out to be a vats issue. does ur key have a chip? I had to wire in a resistor that matched the chip in the key's resistance to disable vats and to get it to fire everytime. thats the cheap way of getting around it, u can program it out with chip tuning also,or replace it with new stuff to keep it working. no problems with it ever since. just another possibility.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He says no vats light. But that light could be blown. But yea, if vats was triggered, it is "dead", no click, nothing. It also takes IIRC 5min from the last try for it to reset itself. When I had issues with mine, I could breath on the chip/key for a few seconds, and make it work???

I had a problem with a corroded wire once. It would give me lights, but lights would dim when you turn the key.

You say the starter is "new". Re-check your connections. Maybe you didnt get something tight. (been there, done that)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

91RSVert wrote:
He says no vats light. But that light could be blown. But yea, if vats was triggered, it is "dead", no click, nothing. It also takes IIRC 5min from the last try for it to reset itself. When I had issues with mine, I could breath on the chip/key for a few seconds, and make it work???

I had a problem with a corroded wire once. It would give me lights, but lights would dim when you turn the key.

You say the starter is "new". Re-check your connections. Maybe you didnt get something tight. (been there, done that)



ill do that... also i have a spare key so maybe ill see if the chip is better on that one or something?

edit: nvm definitely not vats just tried it ... so i guess ill try the starter tomorrow if it doesn't rain cuz i didnt get to get my car under the garage Sad

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