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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject: A bit of carnage |
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Truck broke down yesterday. .was just slowly acclerating from behind a school bus.. 1200rpm. When this happens.
I guess a comp XE 262 is fine with the comp roller tips.. But the Voodoo 262 be too much lol. Those parts are off of 2 different valves. The exhaust stud broke, and the pieces got in the way of the intake which bent the pushrod. Luckily no bent valves, or at least the cylinder still holds air fine. Now to figure out how I want to fix this. |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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wow. carnage indeed |
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rjmcgee The Hammer

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 2328
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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Damn!
Time for some Vortecs |
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"

Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
1986 Chevrolet Camaro Berlinetta
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Good thing it wasn't worse!
I'm sure you have some, but I have 16 pushrods I pulled out of the 'ole smokey 350 if you need em. _________________
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
1987 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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| There are piles of pushrods around somewhere.. Trying to decide if i just replace the stud and put it back together.. or get some full rollers. |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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Wow.
What's Club Pogo?  _________________
| Quote: | | Sometimes I actually think I'm slightly retarded in the mouth. |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
1987 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Online gaming/chat stuff. |
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Yikes. _________________
"Ever see a Motorcycle in front of a Psychiatrists Office?" Me neither |
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
1992 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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88GTAJim Member

Joined: 20 Mar 2008 Posts: 69 Location: Bremerton, WA
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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I think that pushrod is saveable. Just smack it with a hammer a couple of times.  _________________ 88 GTA LB9 5 speed 3.45 posi |
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Raiden Member
Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 193 Location: tacoma
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: |
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WOW  |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:03 am Post subject: |
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| I swear by the full rollers. Especially after the trouble I had with those stupid pivot ball style. |
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rjmcgee The Hammer

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 2328
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: |
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No more roller tips for me.
I put mine in the red TPI car this winter after taking them out of the blue car. When I rebuild the 305 I'm gonna take them out of there too. |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| Looks like i'm at the limit on these pivot ball rockers all right. Looking at the springs i'm using.. i'm about 350#s open pressure. This cam is also opening 0.530 with the 1.6 rockers. With the comp cam my lift was only 0.500 and i was using z28 springs. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| Wow. That's more open pressure than I'm running. |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
1987 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like the springs spec at 330#s at 0.500 lift. So i'm guestimating at 350 at 0.530.. too much anyway lol. The springs are 462# per inch rate. I like how on the jegs site they say upgraded rockers recommended for that cam. I just went ahead and ordered up a set of these..
All USA made, and specs look pretty good. Almost went with CNC's stainless .. which were cheaper. But no idea where they're actually made. Now I'm prayin that when that pushrod got bent it didnt hurt my cam. Another flat cam is all i'd need. |
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91RSVert Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 2736 Location: AR
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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Now your not suppose to be racing school bus'
Nice looking rockers. I want to go with some, but need some green first. |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Shiny new parts arrived. These things are freaking heavy actually. Seem to be nice quality.
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Well there's evidence on the studs that the comp magnum rockers were rubbing. Not sure if it was the pivot ball or the rocker itself though. I don't see any sign of rubbing on the rocker, but theres definate wear on pushrod side of the studs. Comp never tells you how much lift a long slot rocker will handle. Another thing I noticed is the comp rockers have a whole lot more side play in them then the jegs rockers. Both sets are self aligning. I'd say the comps have more then 1/8" side play, and the jegs are probably half that. The jegs use a roller tip with side rails built into the roller. The comps have a smooth roller and edges built into the rocker itself for the alignment feature. Looking in jegs catalog, it looks like comp may be going to the railed roller now as well on the magnum rockers. I would think this would keep the side clearances much tighter. I'm hoping by losing all this slop, and whatever was rubbing the studs, my motor will end up much quieter. It's been quite noisey since I put this cam in, and was never very quiet with the old comp cam either. |
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