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91RSVert

So I managed to install my headers yesterday. Man that was a PITA, but not the worst.

Went to re-install my plugs and WTF? How do you access them?

Out of the 8:
2 I can get standard socket/ratchet on
4 I have to use spark plug socket, wrench.
2 I cant even get a socket on, cant get wrench on either as that part is recessed in the head. WTF?

Anyone make some tools to do this?

Also, the modeled heater only box I have, hits the headers. I have to redo this box to clear the headers. This will be the 3rd box I have made. #$%^&*

blue89 · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:41 am Post subject:

My headers seem to be fine, only #1 needs a socket and wrench. Take a pic Jay cause I wanna see how lucky I am! Laughing

Dewey316 · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:48 am Post subject:

On both Mine and Pauls, to get the #8 plug, we had to cut the end off a socket, you need to leave enough to get it to bite, so cut a little at a time until it fits. Or you can buy a telescoping socket.

--John

Raiden · Member Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 193 Location: tacoma

I have the Edlebrock TES headers. To access no 6 and no 8, I jack the car up and get them fron down under Wink

Al Hasse · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:03 am Post subject:

I have a gear drive socket set where the ratchet head has a pass-through hole. The socket and the wrench fit over the plug with no clearance issues, works great.

91RSVert · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:28 am Post subject:

Mine are Edlebrocks.

Ones I remember having probs with it left front... other is on the left as well.

John, thats what I was thinking as well. Either doing a "slit" in the side, or cutting the whole end off. Will go get a cheapo sp socket if I do that (not cutting up my craftsman one!!!)

Al, can you post a pic of your tool, where you got it, how much, etc.

Travis, I'll try and snap some pics tonight if I'm not welding on a trailer. Working on making the heaterbox fit. Rolling Eyes

Al Hasse · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:24 am Post subject:

This is the set I have. Bought it at Sears.

http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00930036000P?cat=Tool+Sets&pid=00930036000&vertical=TOOL&subcat=Mechanics+Tool+Sets&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes

redlava · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:49 am Post subject:

The cheaper solution is to take a air cut off tool and cut a corner off of the spark plug socket. So instead of having 6 points on the hex on the inside for the spark plug you only have 5

91RSVert · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:56 am Post subject:

I like that Al Surprised

Redlava, thats what I was talking about creating a "slit" in the side.

91RSVert · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:25 pm Post subject:

Here you go T

Edited a little bit so you can see details easier.

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/2567/img0967750bb6.jpg

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http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1600/img0972750nx4.jpg

blue89 · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:38 am Post subject:

I can get to all of mine on the driver side, passenger is very similar but the plug angles send #1 into the runner.

91RSVert · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:31 am Post subject:

Your pipes are designed a little better then mine Sad

blue89 · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:49 am Post subject:

I wouldn't say "better", just different. Do you have a 3 bolt flange on your collector? I'll sell you these so I can get some LT1 headers. My heads are D-port and those are round port headers. I also have an exhaust leak so they should come off anyway. Both headers have o2 bungs in them.

91RSVert · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:39 pm Post subject:

2 Bolt ball flange. I have no y-pipe at the moment, but I will saturday Laughing

They have already ordered parts to make my pipe.

Wish I had the 3 bolt flange style Sad

Dewey316 · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject:

iansane · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:52 pm Post subject:

Doesn't the ball flange provide better sealing?

Wow, this makes me hate my hedmens less! Laughing

Dewey316 · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject:

It may, but you also lose like 1/2" of diam. so it can restrict flow just a hair. And if you build exaust stuff like Paul did, it make it easy to fabricate if everything is all 3 bolt flanges.

91RSVert · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:09 pm Post subject:

The only reason I hate ball flange is trying to find parts for it. The y-pipe requires the ball on this setup... which I didnt get with the headers.

Also, ball flange allows movement for when the motor rocks.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject:

Ball shouldn't allow movement if everything is tight.

3 bolt flanges all the way. Just don't get cheap ones. Get thick 3/8"+ ones.