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91RSVert
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:11 pm    Post subject: Should look familier...... Reply with quote



Sucks trying to get that thing out with about half a tank. Didnt plan on starting this project this soon. Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siphon it! Laughing

If the pump isn't totally DOA yet you can also pump it out.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with stupid

Mine had a little more in it than I thought, but still just a couple of gallons. We found out that the gravity drain worked pretty good Cool

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you could grow some muscles. Laughing

(I wouldn't want to do a half tank either but I've done it before.)

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It got pulled out. Just had a neighbor kid help.

Welding up the PO hole in the floor board. Then installing the new tank Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tried draining the tank last night via gravity. Only got about 1 gal out Confused Still has more in it.

Started leaking around the neck. Go figure? So mine had the commen neck problem.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Floor welded in.
New panhard brace
new sway brackets
new tank straps

tank in
few other parts back on.

Still need to do wiring.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wiring done. Pump primes.

All thats left that I'm going to do is bolt the front part of the exhaust up, and install the rear seat belts.

Rear seats staying out, and fender liner is staying out tell I figure out what I want to do to keep filler neck from wiggling around.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thumbs up

Did you go with a factory style pump? Walbro? Racetronix?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stock pump. Should be fine to run a TPI, or a stock LS1 if I find one for a decent price.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We drained the tank in my T/A with the fuel pump by disconnecting the fuel line at the filter and letting it pump into a bucket. Once we saw what came out it was obvious why the car wouldn't start. After sitting in the tank for several years, the gas (if you could call it that) had actually turned green! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got it all siphoned out tonight. It had around 10gallons in it. Shocked

Car is on the ground
Went to fix the front fuel leak. Need to get a new oring for the fuel lines.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh ya, thats not fun. It should go in much easier. Is it possible to cut the filler neck and reattach it with a large hose? On my current vehicle i used that gas tank repair epoxy on a leaky filler neck and never had a problem after the repair.

So what is the goal with this project? Just replace the pump?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blue89 wrote:
Is it possible to cut the filler neck and reattach it with a large hose?


The factory filler neck has a vapor tube inside of it so you can't just cut it off and repair it with a rubber filler line.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had several goals.

Fix my leak, wherever it was
Better pump
fix a gas gauge thats never read what I thought was right
remove more rust
possibly lighter tank?
Fix hole in floor from previous owner
clean up engine bay room by moving charcole canister(not completed yet)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved on its own power.

To give you an idea how full the tank was. New tank reads 80%, after leaking some during install. Laughing

Would like to thank Ian for tons of help on parts, links, etc.

Still have to install rear seats, and remove front charcole canister. But I had to get it out the garage so we can finish remodeling the house.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the sender was bad? I assume you replaced with a stock unit.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew it never read right since I got the car. Just never knew how far off it was.

I put a 4th gen tank in, so I had to put the grand prix sending unit in it.

4th gen tank
stock LS1 pump
all hoses are fitting'ed on. No riggin crap
grand prix sending unit
new tank straps
"new" panhard brace
"new" sway bar body brackets
4th gen heat shield (it is different)
hole in floorboard fixed
floor board beat in more to clear torque arm

left to do....
wire charcole canister to rear one and remove engine bay one
wire up tank pressure sensor
mount filler tube so it doesnt wiggle
install rear seats
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you plan to wire up the charcoal canister? I think the LS1 engine PCM normally controls it. Not sure what is the logic used.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To my LS1 pcm Laughing I'm going to try and un-route them out my engine harness and route them to the rear. But I'm sure I'm going to have to cut them, then extend them to make it to the rear "firewall".
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