Cascade Crew

[nonsensekid20]

Good price for full kit? And I'm not swapping from an automatic, so do you think they would just sell me the parts I need?

[Twilightoptics]

Some 5 years ago I paid $1100 shipped for an LS1 t56.
That was the trans, stock shifter, and ls1 bell housing.


What full kit do you mean? LS1? LT1?

[nonsensekid20]

Well I'm special.. http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/camarofirebird93-97lt16speedconversion-1-2.aspx

[Twilightoptics]

I think that's the picture of an LS1 trans.


Personally I wouldn't go LT1 route unless you have an LT1 engine. The T56 route costs about the same, AND is cheaper in the long run in terms of flywheel and clutch replacement.

If you have a T5 now, all you need is the LS1 Trans, McLeod adapter plate, McLeod pilot bushing, cross member, and shorten the driveline.


IIRC for the LT1 you'll need a conversion flywheel, lt1 clutch, clutch fork, bell housing, crossmember, slave at least, and maybe driveline work. Flywheel and clutch alone is over $500.

I've wrote about this many times here.

[Alphius]

With a 1-piece RMS the LT1 flywheel should bolt right up, therefore negating the need for the conversion flywheel. Bolting an LT1 T56 to a 1-piece RMS SBC is just the same as bolting one to an actual LT1.

Aside from that detail, I completely agree with everything else Paul said. With a T5 setup already and a 2-piece RMS the LS1 T56 is way cheaper overall.

[Twilightoptics]

[Alphius]

[aaron_sK]

[Twilightoptics]

[charlie6178]

as far as the flywheels go, theres one more option

if you have access to a lathe big enough to chuck up a flywheel, you can use a 4 jaw chuck, and dial indicate the center bore of the flywheel and go in with a boring bar and take the needed material out of the flywheel to fit over the early (2 piece main) crankshaft. i have personally done it, so i know it works.

my first T56 swap in my old 83 T/A i used the centerforce conversion flywheel which was $300 give or take and a stock LT1 clutch, and stock LT1 hydraulics worked flawlessly. then we did the same exact swap with an 84 Z28 and used the factory LT1 flywheel that i modified and we had ZERO issues with it.

if i end up using the T56 rather than the ZF6 in my 92 camaro, i'll definitally just modify the stock LT1 flywheel again.

[BluFbdy]

Originally I aid about 1100 shipped for my ls t56 and then bought the crossmember from hawks, and stupidly ended up with the LT in a trade, got a pro 5.0 and new surfaced flywheel out of the deal, honestly nick I'd heed the warnings and go ls on this, the adapter plate is a bit much bit you can find them cheap, you just need to be ersitant, also doesn't the ls need the driveshaft shortened? Never looked into how much that would cost but its probably better than a clutch for an LT lol

[Twilightoptics]

Adapter plate is only about $200.

Driveline shorten is about $200.


I have an adapter plate and scatter shield. Al was interested in it some months ago but haven't heard since.

[blue89]

It costs that much for a shortened driveshaft?? I think my new custom shaft was about there.

[BluFbdy]

There ya go, modify the old or go custom lol

[charlie6178]

The driveline does not need to be shortened whatsoever with an lt1 T56. Idk why people think its a big deal. it's literally a bolt in swap that you need a conversion flywheel, or stock one machined inside. It's not rocket science.

[Al Hasse]

[Twilightoptics]

[nonsensekid20]

If I don't have to swap my clutch id really love that. Otherwise I'd be throwing out a centerforce with like 2k on it. The LS trans would bolt to my motor with the stock bell housing? I think I saw an ls trans on CL for like 1700. So then all I would need is the crossmember and to shorten the driveshaft correct? I've got a carbed motor. Not lt or ls. I don't know what it classifies as.

[83Z28BlackBetty]

Yeah the lt1 style is an easy bolt up swap IF you have a one piece rear main seal. Once I saw the cost of the adapter plate, I found it was worth it to just swap the entire lt1.

-jake

[aaron_sK]