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		cameron7710 Member
  
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject: any ideas? | 
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				well the camaro is having a problem. its really struggling up hill and if u give it to much gas to quick it hesitates really bad then makes a small pop noises and takes off and it seams to do it worse the hotter the engine is. anyone have any ideas what it could be _________________
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		Dewey316 The Lama
  
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:21 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Coolant sensor, o2 sensor, clogged cat... it could be several things, you need to check stuff out. | 
			 
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		cameron7710 Member
  
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				ok ya.tho im sure its not the cat cause that is fairly new _________________
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		aaron_sK Member
 
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 8:07 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| EST wire unplugged? | 
			 
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		cameron7710 Member
  
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				 Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:55 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | aaron_sK wrote: | 	 		  | EST wire unplugged? | 	  i dont know how it would be but ill check in the morning _________________
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		Saber Member
 
  Joined: 09 Aug 2009 Posts: 43 Location: Gresham, Oregon
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:39 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| is the popping sound coming from up front? that's the same thing my car is doing cuts out and pops when i take off and i pretty much have to drive at high rpms mine is cause my car is running in limp mode and that's actually what its called i have a bad fuel pump and missing my mass air flow sensor not saying that's what's wrong with your car but have it looked at cause its doing the same thing my car is. by the way is your check engine light on? | 
			 
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		TurdGen1989 Member
 
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:37 am    Post subject:  | 
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				just save yourself the trouble as i failed to do so... just go buy a $28 coolant sensor and be done with it lol _________________ Phil.
 
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		Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
  
  Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:12 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Saber wrote: | 	 		  | is the popping sound coming from up front? that's the same thing my car is doing cuts out and pops when i take off and i pretty much have to drive at high rpms mine is cause my car is running in limp mode and that's actually what its called i have a bad fuel pump and missing my mass air flow sensor not saying that's what's wrong with your car but have it looked at cause its doing the same thing my car is. by the way is your check engine light on? | 	  
 
 
 
You definitely wanna get that MAF back in there.
 
 
 
 
Pops up front are from too advanced timing or lean conditions.
 
 
Pops out the back are from too retarded timing or rich conditions. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! | 
			 
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		Saber Member
 
  Joined: 09 Aug 2009 Posts: 43 Location: Gresham, Oregon
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:18 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| you can hear it coming from front and back and i have to have the maf sensor out tell i fix the fuel pump or the computer doesn't read the pump is going so the car won't run at all | 
			 
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		Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
  
  Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:49 am    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Saber wrote: | 	 		  | you can hear it coming from front and back and i have to have the maf sensor out tell i fix the fuel pump or the computer doesn't read the pump is going so the car won't run at all | 	  
 
 
That doesn't make any sense?
 
 
Maybe if the pump is bad as you suspect, the readings from the MAF make the mixture too lean because the computer runs based on full pressures. Running in limp home mode like this is a bad idea.
 
 
You could be running so lean you melt some pistons. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! | 
			 
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		cameron7710 Member
  
  Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 813 Location: shoreline,Wa
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 1:54 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				well i dont hav any engine lights on and the poping sound is coming for the front so now im thinking its the coolant sensor cause wouldnt that cause it to run lean? plus my car seams to have cooling system problems almost all the repairs that this car has had i the past few years have been coolant related first the radiator then the heater core then the coolant temp sensor and the water pump has been making noises since iv owned the car so y wouldnt it be time for this sensor to go _________________
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		aaron_sK Member
 
  Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 2:54 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				The coolant temp sensors I've seen fail have failed max cold, and cause the engine to run rich. Yours sounds like a lean condition.
 
 
Are you overheating? Overheated engine will ping and have no power. | 
			 
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		cameron7710 Member
  
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:00 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | aaron_sK wrote: | 	 		  The coolant temp sensors I've seen fail have failed max cold, and cause the engine to run rich. Yours sounds like a lean condition.
 
 
Are you overheating? Overheated engine will ping and have no power. | 	   nope no over heating but it seams to run a tad bit hotter tho _________________
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		aaron_sK Member
 
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Lean condition causes the engine to run hotter. Check fuel pressure, and timing. | 
			 
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		Saber Member
 
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 8:42 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| by the way i had a shop check out my car and im only running 25 pounds of pressure and they told me my car should be pushing 44 pounds | 
			 
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		Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
  
  Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:25 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				Saber: I'd verify their readings. What shop did you take it to? You're local so I'll now most shops.
 
 
Cameron:
 
 
Spend the $7 and get a 180ºF Thermostat. Standard V8 Small Block Chevy w/ gasket.
 
 
Run something like chevron or shell vas.... 92 octane.....  NOT arco, 7-11,etc... and get back to us...       _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! | 
			 
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		Saber Member
 
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				 Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:22 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| its a local mechanic in Gresham one of my grandma's good friends owns a shop think its called cleveland autos | 
			 
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		lostinconformiti Member
  
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				 Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:52 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Twilightoptics wrote: | 	 		  Cameron:
 
 
Spend the $7 and get a 180ºF Thermostat. Standard V8 Small Block Chevy w/ gasket.
 
 
Run something like chevron or shell vas.... 92 octane.....  NOT arco, 7-11,etc... and get back to us...       | 	  
 
 
 
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		cameron7710 Member
  
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				 Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:54 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Twilightoptics wrote: | 	 		  Saber: I'd verify their readings. What shop did you take it to? You're local so I'll now most shops.
 
 
Cameron:
 
 
Spend the $7 and get a 180ºF Thermostat. Standard V8 Small Block Chevy w/ gasket.
 
 
Run something like chevron or shell vas.... 92 octane.....  NOT arco, 7-11,etc... and get back to us...       | 	  
 
 
ok tomarrow ill pick up the 180 thermostate and just for the hell of it ill grab a coolant sensor (if there open on labor day that is). and i normaly run 89 octane but ill do 92 now and i  try to stay away from 7-11 and arco and places like that but there is safeway gas that i have been running in it cause with discounts i could get it for like 2.50 a gal but i thought it would bit me in the ass. but i stoped runing that when this problem started but right now i got a full tank of 89 octane from 76(im not sure good 76 gas is)  with fuel system cleaner but ill see about addin some better gas soon _________________
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		aaron_sK Member
 
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				 Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				| Safeway gas sucks. Same with Costco and Fred Meyer. Try Shell or Chevron premium. I do run Arco 87 in the truck, but I have to detune a bit for it. | 
			 
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