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BigBoi4Lyph Member

Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 233 Location: Olympia, Washington
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:41 pm Post subject: If somone could help me program a chip. |
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So i dont have the cash to put out for all the programing stuff i need right at the moment to tune my iroc.
im hopeing one of you guys around my area olympia,wa that has the equiptment if i buy a prom if we could meet up and help me get a chip made.
the initial timing is driving me nuts (i converted from an auto the manual. i beleave the timing tables are different and thats why it boggs a little when im letting out the clutch.)
anyhow let me know i would apriciate it much and i could come to you. met up and talk 3rd gen for a while!
David _________________ 87 Camaro Z28 - Iroc-Z |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Have you verified your actual timing?
I've run chips on both manuals and standards and seen no difference.
In fact most guys that convert to a manual, it works just fine. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Paul, on my '87 the stock idle/off-idle timing was like 20* straight across for an auto, but the manual dropped off on the high end of the scale.
I bumped it up to about 26* till 1200rpm, then ramped from there as usual, and it made a huge difference in the feel of the clutch. Much less bog than before. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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Further proves that not all engines are the same. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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90droptoproc Member
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 490
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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ya, had to burn a chip when we went from auto to standard
I was able to drive it, but it would stall out when you came to a stop and held in the clutch (stop lights) _________________
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Could also be a VSS issue. Without it getting a good signal your timing will be retarded, and your idle will start creeping up at lights. |
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83Z28BlackBetty Bam-Ba-Lam

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 2083 Location: Aloha
1983 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:09 am Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | ...your timing will be retarded... |
No YOUR timing will be retarded... |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:28 am Post subject: |
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| 83Z28BlackBetty wrote: | | aaron_sK wrote: | | ...your timing will be retarded... |
No YOUR timing will be retarded... |
Says the man with an automatic and a carb.  |
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83Z28BlackBetty Bam-Ba-Lam

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 2083 Location: Aloha
1983 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:30 am Post subject: |
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I know i know... I like the carb action, but i really miss shifting. |
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
1986 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| shifting is over-rated :p |
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fiveoformula Member

Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 1799 Location: OR
1988 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| blue89 wrote: | | shifting is over-rated :p |
Coming from the guy who races people with his tires going faster than the rest of his car!  _________________
'88 FORMULA |
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
1986 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:10 am Post subject: |
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| Hmmm.... True.... |
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BigBoi4Lyph Member

Joined: 10 Jun 2007 Posts: 233 Location: Olympia, Washington
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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yea. it just boggs just a little if i do a soft launch if i keep the rpms higher when i take off its fine but on a soft normal launch you can feel it.
base timing is good.
beyond tunning for the swap just generally it needs some things changed from no a/c and smog.
but if anyone can help me that would be sweet. let me know _________________ 87 Camaro Z28 - Iroc-Z |
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Mangus Member

Joined: 10 Jan 2004 Posts: 254 Location: @computer in garage (Bothell)
1989 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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| IAC params are generally quite different between auto and manual. Your best bet, in my opinion, is to find the stock bin for the new transmission style that you've changed to (e.g. start with the stock manual bin for the same year, engine, etc if you swapped to a manual transmission) and tune from there. |
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