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Wolffy
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 Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 3:53 pm Post subject: how to remove the instrument cluster? |
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ok folks, how do you remove it?
i have everything in front & bottom removed, the colum dropped
the only 3 things i have left are the speedo & the 2 electrical plugs, but i cant get my hands behind it at all
is there any bolts or studs that hold it in? i dont see any on my replacement cluster at all
thanxs, Shawn |
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Twilightoptics
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| Posted: Sun May 08, 2005 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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You dont have to drop the column. After the trim pieces and the plastic cover there are two 10MM ghetto nuts in the bulb areas on the bottom. One on each side. Silver. Un do those, then pull the cluster forward, gauges stay intact.
Then reach behind and depress the retaining spring that holes the speedo cable to the back of the speedo/cluster. |
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Wolffy
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| Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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thanxs Paul, i looked, but i guess these old eyes couldnt see them
i got the 145 speedo installed now & the gears for the tranny are on the way to get it calibrated correctly |
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ET phone hoME
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 10:45 am Post subject: |
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whats a ghetto nut?
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Twilightoptics
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:46 pm Post subject: |
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| ET phone hoME wrote: | | whats a ghetto nut? |
Once you start tearing into a thirdgen you'll know what I mean. When you try to take louvers off, or the cluster out, or your mirror off the door, etc. |
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Schultzy89GTA
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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He's being funny... it is a lame little sheet metal/aluminum type screw often used on plastic.
Don't go looking for 'ghetto nut' in your service manual 
-Schultzy |
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Twilightoptics
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Schultzy89GTA wrote: | He's being funny... it is a lame little sheet metal/aluminum type screw often used on plastic.
Don't go looking for 'ghetto nut' in your service manual
-Schultzy |
Nope, wont be in there. It's a 'Hardcore' term  |
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ET phone hoME
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| Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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i was specifically asking WHICH nut type it was, i have already seen them all. im not framiliar with the name
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Schultzy89GTA
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i tried  |
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ET phone hoME
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 6:33 am Post subject: |
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the black ones with the funky washer on them that are self tapping? phillips type
or is it the little star head ones?
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iansane
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 9:38 am Post subject: |
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It's the ones that just look like a small piece of pressed sheetmetal (10mm head I think? Isn't everything on these cars 10mm?) usually with a chunk of black rubber crap on the inside to glue it in becuse it isn't really threaded. The nut kind of "cuts" its way on.  HTH
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ET phone hoME
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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hmm, i dont know if i remember one like this.
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Dewey316
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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| ET phone hoME wrote: | | hmm, i dont know if i remember one like this. |
You need to take more of your car apart then. 
they are also used to hold the door handles on, that stupid ghetto nut one of GM's worst engineering descesions EVER. |
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ET phone hoME
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| Posted: Sat May 14, 2005 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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i have taken a fair amount of stuff apart. but i havent enountered this infamous item yet.
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iansane
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| Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 9:05 am Post subject: |
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| You will grasshoppa, you will. And you will curse that day. |
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ET phone hoME
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| Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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i guess they are a pain in the ass eh?
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Twilightoptics
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| Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| ET phone hoME wrote: | | i guess they are a pain in the ass eh? |
It's a goofy metal nut that threads onto plastic.... what happens when we try to tighten something like that?
A stripper that's no fun! |
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ET phone hoME
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| Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 6:30 am Post subject: |
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get a bigger nut i think most are the equivalent of a 6 x 3/4 or maybe even a 4 x 3/4, just go up a size
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