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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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My unaesthetic build continues...
I asked her for water...
she brought me gasoline...
Fuel tank hijinks:
Things continue to fall out of the car. This tank came out no trouble at all. Must be because I lack an engineering background...
The filler tube tank I got from Mike way back when had a bent flapper that wouldn't close, and the threads on the end of the neck were a bit wonky. My stupid ass figures "no problem!" so I reach for the chain cutter and whack the neck off, intending to swap it with the neck off of the old tank. Then I suddenly remembered why that's a really stupid idea:
So I sat there looking at the two tanks and it occurred to me that the tank from the old GTA was actually kinda dented and beat from being kicked around the floor of the several shops I've had since I got it. It was actually crushed down on one side from me setting something on it at some point.
It also occurred to me that the tank I had just pulled was in nice shape except for having a filler neck that was bent down by someone trying to swap the pump without dropping the axle far enough (thank god they didn't cut a door).
After looking at it a bit I fixed myself a quick filler neck fixin' tool out of some exhaust pipe that Paul had left at my shop:
Perfect alignment:
Gaskets:
The gasket that comes with the Racetronix kit (right, ignore the cut) is a super cheapo crappy one. It had swelled up while installed in the other tank and would not go back in. The GM unit (left) is lined with a wire and has nice alignment tabs. They want almost $17 for it though!!!
Tank vent:
While the tank was out I cut the vent line with my peanut cutter and rerouted it up:
With the tank vent rerouted I removed the hard vent line from under the car, then ran a 1/4" Wix filter above the filler neck:
...and routed the line out through a hole in the gas door liner:
Axle:
The axle prep and installation was a fairly boring affair so I didn't take pictures, save for this one of the new suspension goodies thanks to Paul and Mike:
I will let them settle before I decide, but I think I may need to take another quarter to half coil off of Paul's springs. I am not running any rear stereo or upholstery and this thing sits high:
More paint:
I apparently cannot go an entire day without painting something, so I pulled the strut mounts to make Ian happy and touched up a few other spots:
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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No stereo for me either. Just a battery. Which you'll have at some point. Plus get fuel in it, and the engine in it, and everything assembled and driven before you decide. Even weight in the front will bring it down some. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed. I'm in no hurry.
I was shocked at how much the car came up when I gutted the interior. I did not weigh all that came out (went in with all the other dump run crap) but I would guess several hundred pounds. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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And subframe connectors with dual bracing. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Twilightoptics wrote: | | And subframe connectors with dual bracing. |
Have you been tapped to build those?!  |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
1987 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Aarons a carpenter right? Why did I suddenly have an image of 2x4 subframe connectors....  |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
1991 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | I apparently cannot go an entire day without painting something, so I pulled the strut mounts to make Ian happy and touched up a few other spots: |
Muuuuuch better.
Some nice progress. That filter location is a much cleaner job that I did! _________________
| Quote: | | Sometimes I actually think I'm slightly retarded in the mouth. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:52 am Post subject: |
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| RSFreak wrote: | Have you been tapped to build those?!  |
Hey now! How about we let Paul finish welding the stuff I need to get this damn thing running! Then we can worry about the frame.
| chevymad wrote: | Aarons a carpenter right? Why did I suddenly have an image of 2x4 subframe connectors....  |
It would be in keeping with the Chevrolet tradition of running a wood frame under the coachwork long after Ford went to steel.
| iansane wrote: | | That filter location is a much cleaner job that I did! |
I was planning on running it up front but then I thought "why?" I think that this may also eliminate some of the fuel smell you get while idling at a stop with the front-mounted vent like I had in my IROC. |
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Alphius Peanut

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 2429 Location: Grand Mound
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:38 am Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | It would be in keeping with the Chevrolet tradition of running a wood frame under the coachwork long after Ford went to steel.  |
You know, the Corvette to this day still uses a balsa wood floor that's sandwiched between two layers of composite.  _________________ 84 Camaro Z28 - LS1/T56
85 Silverado - Low and Slow |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Morgan is still making cars (high performance cars, mind you) with wooden framing behind the coachwork.
Wood is much lighter than steel and can be plenty strong if used correctly. The issue is longevity, cost and fire retardation. |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
1991 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:11 am Post subject: |
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I look at this;
and think, "Yaaaaaaaaaayyyy!!" |
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IROCDave Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 957 Location: Snohomish WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Man thats a big job changing colors of paint. A couple of things that came to mind while looking at the pictures, Were the gaps between body panels / doors / hatch etc good? Also might want to paint your final coat around the gas tank fill plastic shroud. That would be a bitch to prep and paint later. You could leave it, but every time you fill up you will know what color the car used to be.... |
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IROCDave Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 957 Location: Snohomish WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, and dont think the poke at GM didnt go unnoticed Maybe Ford should have stuck with wood...
http://www.raptorforumz.com/showthread.php?t=14208
I hadnt heard about this until last night. Adam Carolla mentioned it on the car show. He had a great line about it. The guy from thesmokingtire.com has one and was trying to say that the ten trucks with bent frames all hit something. Adam responded with " yea, they hit reality". |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| IROCDave wrote: | | Were the gaps between body panels / doors / hatch etc good? |
Not really. But not enough to bother me.
| IROCDave wrote: | | Also might want to paint your final coat around the gas tank fill plastic shroud. That would be a bitch to prep and paint later. You could leave it, but every time you fill up you will know what color the car used to be.... |
It is six screws to remove, and three of them are not even tightened. I will pull it out before I paint.
The whole thing will get bomb-canned or shot cheap with single-stage. As has been mentioned previously I am not an aesthetically picky person. On the contrary I do not want a nice car for fear of ruining it. I built this thing to beat fast cars, not to look pretty and sit still.
| IROCDave wrote: | Oh, and dont think the poke at GM didnt go unnoticed Maybe Ford should have stuck with wood... |
My mind is completely boggled by anyone who expects to buy a factory "performance" vehicle from a mainstream manufacturer. If you buy a new Camaro you need to immediately pull it into the shop and start cutting off the stupid horsecrap the engineers thought it needed.
If you buy a new Ford F-150 and flog it on the trail it will break. It's your fault for expecting engineers who build Ford Tauruses to be able to design a Trophy Truck. They can't do it. It's not their job. It's not what they do.
You need to build it right yourself, pay someone to build it right, or it will be built wrong. It's just that simple.
End of rant, start of building:
Hatch:
All you damn kids laughed at me when I said I wanted a heater-delete hatch. Too rare you all said.
There are three thirdgens apiece at the Tumwater and Lakewood Pick-A joints. Three of them have the heater delete, three do not. One of the heater deletes was smashed, as were two of the heated units. One of the non-heater units was the aforementioned unit with the third brake light. However I found a non-light non-heat hatch on a 1990 Firebird in Tumwater yesterday. John and I went down today to grab it.
We started off by pulling the decklid off of Bananer:
...and dropping it onto John's primer-bombed Berli:
John's rusted hunk of a decklid was turned in at the yard for a core:
Then we went to the yard and pulled my new hatch:
...and installed the decklid I had previously pulled from that '87 Camaro in Lakewood. Hatch installation juice was critical to our success.
...and dropped it onto the car. John obviously approves:
Decided I should probably do something about the yellow/bare steel combo we had going on.
Somehow I think I look like a hairy Mr. Burns in this picture.
That's better (my priming job was much better than John's ):
More to come! |
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popballz Member

Joined: 18 Nov 2007 Posts: 533 Location: Tacoma, WA
1989 Pontiac Firebird
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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nice work dude, its coming along well! _________________ -Donald
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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We should point out that we put the yellow deck lid on my car 'cause it is drilled for a spoiler. I could have drilled the holes myself, but my lid was already pretty rusted and this should be plug-n-play!  _________________ '86 Trans Am - 5.0L TPI - LT1 cam - 700R4 - WS6
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4417 Location: Gresham, OR
1989 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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@ 'hairy mr burns'!
Glad to see progress. Looking forward to following the build.
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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Dinner and more beer resulted in installation of additional parts.
Frame braces painted and installed:
Also some other crap I put under the hood while I was in there:
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Whats that dinky thing? a motorcycle engine? LOL  |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty much, yeah...
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