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RK82
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:11 pm    Post subject: Holley FTW Reply with quote

I know most of you guy are more into fuel injection but I've been messing with a edelbrock carb for while could never get the thing to run properly. I picked up a 600 vac secondary holley bolted it on didn't even have to adjust the idle car runs 10x better, butt dyno says a least 10 more HP Laughing . I am excited just thought I would share.

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chevymad
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good carb makes a huge difference in the butt dyno. Edelbrocks are usually dependable, but i've never seen one be the best choice. Glad to see the holley's working for ya!
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you ever seen an Edelbrock or Carter under the hood of any truly fast car?

Didn't think so. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have a couple of those works great and used them to break in engines. wait till you up grade to a street avenger.
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is this car-brew-at-uuurr you speak of? Very Happy

I love that feeling of accomplishment when something actually works after install.

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RK82
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

another thing I noticed today was with the edelbrock it didn't matter what I set the timing to or what jets/rods were in it, it always had that 3 rocks in a coffee can kind of pinging/knocking, completely gone with the holley I lugged it down to 1000rpm in 4 gear today foot to the floor it pulled out of it without one knock or ping Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice! Wouldn't mind having one of those on the Berli. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got a 4160 sitting on my bench right now, John. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2011 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
Got a 4160 sitting on my bench right now, John. Wink


We can make that part of the deal... Wink

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A well-running CCC Q-Jet is IMHO way better than a Holley. The Q-Jet is the pinnacle of carburetor technology (whatever that's worth). It can get better gas mileage unlike a Holley with nearly the same power output at WOT with a couple simple tuning changes. The mixture control and timing control provided by the computer in this setup makes it even better. Just look at Brandon's 327. And a Carter/Edelbrock is just lame in every way, but we already knew that. Razz

Keep in mind I'm not saying the Q-Jet is the end-all-be-all of carburetors, in a racing application frankly a Holley would probably be better. However, in day to day driving, and for simple flexibility, the Q-Jet gets my vote any day. If you want something that really is the best in every single situation, well then you might just have to find yourself some fuel injection and tune up the computer a bit. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holley double pumper. FTW

With 4.10 gears I got 18-20 mpg going to cows on more than one occasion. Just have to tune it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good job on the swap. Do you still have an o2 sensor? I'd upgrade to a 4160 when you have the opportunity. I have an article someone on how to change to dual metering blocks if your interested although a bolt on 4160 would be easy to get ahold of. I have a 750 and 650 DP that I'm still playing with. After a cam upgrade I don't think I'll need the 650. It's had its choke horn shaved and upper throut area blended. Looks good, just too small for me.
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blue89 wrote:
I'd upgrade to a 4160 when you have the opportunity.


You mean 4150. He already has a 4160.

blue89 wrote:
I have an article someone on how to change to dual metering blocks if your interested


Yup. Wink It is literally just a few bolts.
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta say I'm impressed with the Street Avenger. Haven't had a problem with it.
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blue89 wrote:
Good job on the swap. Do you still have an o2 sensor? I'd upgrade to a 4160 when you have the opportunity. I have an article someone on how to change to dual metering blocks if your interested although a bolt on 4160 would be easy to get ahold of. I have a 750 and 650 DP that I'm still playing with. After a cam upgrade I don't think I'll need the 650. It's had its choke horn shaved and upper throut area blended. Looks good, just too small for me.


nope, o2 sensor was long gone before I even bought the car.
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PostPosted: Wed May 04, 2011 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
blue89 wrote:
I'd upgrade to a 4160 when you have the opportunity.


You mean 4150. He already has a 4160.

blue89 wrote:
I have an article someone on how to change to dual metering blocks if your interested


Yup. Wink It is literally just a few bolts.


yup when I build a real motor or go LS I'll upgrade to a 4150HP
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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh ya, one of those. What type of boosters does it have? I don't know what they came with.
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 12:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well it worked pretty good for a little while, then started bogging at 3000rpm
so I went to change to a stiffer spring for the secondary's and the little check ball was missing, I put a stiffer spring in it any way but it still bogged so I searched around on summitracing and found this proform vacuum diaphragm no more changing springs just turn the screw..lol




only thing I don't like is the purple, and now I am interested in the secondary metering block conversion, aaron what kit did you use?
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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RK82 wrote:
only thing I don't like is the purple


Rattle can that sucker! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Mon May 23, 2011 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RSFreak wrote:
RK82 wrote:
only thing I don't like is the purple


Rattle can that sucker! Very Happy


can't see it with air cleaner on
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