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townaj Member
Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Posts: 326 Location: San Antone, TX
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:12 pm Post subject: Headlight wiring |
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Ok so I'm rewiring my headlights and they are all messed up. Which wire should i use to trigger high beam and which one for low beam. I have relays that I have to run trigger wires to but I could not figure out which was which. Its an 85 camaro. Thanks |
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iansane Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5740 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like light green for high, tan for low.
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blue89 Member
Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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iansane Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5740 Location: Bothell
1991 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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No, ironically enough somewhere around here I have a page by page photo copy '85 camaro GM service manual. (after they went out of print GM would just send photocopies when you requested a manual) I have to find it sooner or later because I promised it to Skyler (so maybe we'll see another LTx thirdgen!)
That shot is from alldatapro.com though. |
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townaj Member
Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Posts: 326 Location: San Antone, TX
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Thats awesome thanks. I thought it was tan. But only one set of lights would come on at a time doing tan for the trigger wire. So i played with the trigger and I got all of them to light up but the high beam indicator is on. Whats going on here? Lol |
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Al Hasse Member
Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
1992 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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If you look at your lights, the outer pair each have a three prong connector. They are both HI and LO as they are two filament bulbs, but only one filament is used at a time. The inner pair each have a two prong connector, one filament each and only HI beam.
Look at the diagram Ian posted, the tan wire is only for LO beam and only goes to the outer pair of lights. The light green wire is only for HI beam and is routed to all four lights. The dash indicator gets its power from the light green wire also, which explains why it's on with all four lights. _________________ 92 Camaro
89 Camaro
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townaj Member
Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Posts: 326 Location: San Antone, TX
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Oops sorry i forgot to say i swapped out the stockers for some of those crappy housings from ebay. So they have 3 prongs on all 4 lights. I wanted to make it so all 4 were on for each setting but couldn't get it before i ran out of time so i just made them work for now |
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blue89 Member
Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Halt! I believe by law you are only allowed to have a single pair of driving lights if you want to play in traffic. Oregon law even says you have to turn off all auxiliary lighting including fog lights for oncoming traffic. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, driving with the highs on all the time is a good way to get pulled over or shot by rednecks, or any number of other bad ends. |
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iansane Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5740 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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aaron_sK wrote: | Yeah, driving with the highs on all the time is a good way to get pulled over or shot by rednecks, or any number of other bad ends. |
I think he means he's got four h4 style bulbs so he wants the low element on all four lights to come on, not to run highs all the time.
And he's in texass where overhalf the vehicles are trucks so I'm not sure he has to worry about blinding lots of people! _________________
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townaj Member
Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Posts: 326 Location: San Antone, TX
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:22 am Post subject: |
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Haha yeah Ian has it right. I don't want highs on all the time just all four lights to come on for each setting. And yeah blinding someone would be hard. Most people have trucks that are a lot taller than my car. I couldn't even if I tried lol |
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Al Hasse Member
Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:38 am Post subject: |
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I jumped the HI and LO pins together for the inner pair on my H4 lights. The LO setting only lights the outer pair. The HI setting lights all four, but also lights both filaments of the inner pair, needs a slightly larger fuse and a little descretion when using for an extended time because the housing is only rated for 60W, with both filaments burning, power is 115W, alot more heat for that plastic housing. |
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blue89 Member
Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:55 am Post subject: |
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Townaj, that's exactly what I said was illegal. Youre only allowed two total low beams with traffic. Washington even says you are only allowed one extra pair of driving lights. So the people with 4 fog lights on at once are illegal. I would not wire all four low beams to be on. |
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Alphius Peanut
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 2429 Location: Grand Mound
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:06 am Post subject: |
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blue89 wrote: | Townaj, that's exactly what I said was illegal. Youre only allowed two total low beams with traffic. Washington even says you are only allowed one extra pair of driving lights. So the people with 4 fog lights on at once are illegal. I would not wire all four low beams to be on. |
Seperate kill switch for the inner lows.
But yes, it is illegal to run more than one pair of headlights and one pair of smaller driving lights in traffic. _________________ 84 Camaro Z28 - LS1/T56
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:24 am Post subject: |
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If you have weird half on situations when you use an aftermarket harness.... you need to find the ground wire IIRC from the highs. It grounds under the steering shaft IIRC and back feeds.
I distintly remember a wire I had to disconnect to get mine to work right. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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townaj Member
Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Posts: 326 Location: San Antone, TX
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Posted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Well that seems like a dumb law. Damn. Guess I just have to wire them up like normal then. I can get them to work like that. Just didn't want them to. Apparently I blew one of my bulbs so I need new ones. Any suggestions? |
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blue89 Member
Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:46 am Post subject: |
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If I were you I would check the local laws and see. They usually have them online now. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:54 am Post subject: |
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I've never heard that as illegal. Infact I thought they did that factory. That's why there is a high beam only and a low/high beam. On each side. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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Al Hasse Member
Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Not sure about most other states, but in Washington, the law says that you can't have more than two pair of forward facing bright lights energized at the same time. Probably the reason that factory fog lights turn off with high beams.
I read it to include HI as two pair, LO as a pair and fogs as a pair. |
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blue89 Member
Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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I concur. |
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