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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:42 pm Post subject: HID foglights? |
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Alright I'm going to be ordering an HID lamp setup for my projector fog lights and I can't decide what color to get. I've always heard the yellow (3K) are the best for adverse weather conditions (which are pretty common around here!) and I do like that look. Reminds me of newer Lexus cars and such. However, I kind of want them to match the white color the headlights which are 6K. What would the crew do?
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4417 Location: Gresham, OR
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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I have been thinking about this myself. My preference leans toward matchy matchy.
$ .02
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Colored lights are weak sauce in general. JMHO. |
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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I have the Hella dual fog/driving setup with H3 bulbs, not projectors but they do what I want (for now ). I have a set of 2500K yellows in the fog reflectors and 5150K white in the driving reflectors. I bought the bulbs after the fact since the lights came standard with the same warm white bulbs for each application. I use the yellow fog lights for night time fog/rain/snow and the white for everything else. Since these don't shine as high as my headlights, I also have the white lights wired to be daytime running lights, disabled with the light switch and overridden by a separate switch in the dash to select either pair (but not both).
Aimed properly, the white lights should do everything you need. Yellow has been considered to reduce glare from water droplets in the beam, but I've also read that it doesn't really matter which color you use. _________________ 92 Camaro
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Whiskeychick Member

Joined: 19 Sep 2010 Posts: 225 Location: Penticton BC
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Make em match.
I dont like the yellow colour for fogs, looks better all the same _________________ 1987 - Trans am GTA, hooker headers, Borla catback, Cat delete, CAI, 9.6 @ 75mph 1/8mile
1978 - Trans am 6.6/TA, Gold bird. Workin on it
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | Colored lights are weak sauce in general. JMHO. |
They're HIDs, so you kind of HAVE to choose a color temp.  |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Al Hasse wrote: | I have the Hella dual fog/driving setup with H3 bulbs, not projectors but they do what I want (for now ). I have a set of 2500K yellows in the fog reflectors and 5150K white in the driving reflectors. I bought the bulbs after the fact since the lights came standard with the same warm white bulbs for each application. I use the yellow fog lights for night time fog/rain/snow and the white for everything else. Since these don't shine as high as my headlights, I also have the white lights wired to be daytime running lights, disabled with the light switch and overridden by a separate switch in the dash to select either pair (but not both).
Aimed properly, the white lights should do everything you need. Yellow has been considered to reduce glare from water droplets in the beam, but I've also read that it doesn't really matter which color you use. |
I remember you're setup with the new lights and I *though* you had yellows for the fogs but I couldn't remember. And I definitely can't remember what they look like.  |
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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How often do you really drive in really nasty weather? I drove Tim's old S4 in some HEAVY snow, with really nasty fog one night, and I actually had to turn the HID headlights off, the reflection back from the fog/snow mix was too much, and I couldn't see anything. I drove on nothing but the marker-lamps.
That said, I have maybe only really driven in conditions that white lights were not usable in, 2-3 times in my entire life. None of those conditions would I have been in an f-body in. For 99.9% of driving, long reaching, high temp lights work well. |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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True. Although, I wasn't looking at it as yellow lights would be better than whire when I can't use headlights at all. I was more looking at it as, if yellow is supposedly better why not use it all the time?
Ala Delalum vs poly vs rubber. (HID yellow vs HID white vs halogen).
I was deeming "nasty weather" as even hard rain I guess? Actually, the fog lights I have are factory Denali units so I'm not sure of their exact spray pattern. For what it's worth, anytime I hop in the car the marker lights/fog lights are on. When it gets dark the headlights come on.
| Schultzy89GTA wrote: | I have been thinking about this myself. My preference leans toward matchy matchy.
$ .02
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The GTA would look sessy with some HIDs.  |
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| iansane wrote: | | True. Although, I wasn't looking at it as yellow lights would be better than whire when I can't use headlights at all. I was more looking at it as, if yellow is supposedly better why not use it all the time? |
Because white light is more "natural". But, lots of Le Mans and racing cars, use yellow driving and headlights for night racing. So, there may be something to using all yellow light. |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Anything to the blue side of the spectrum causes more glare. To the red end is less glare. If you drive in reflective conditions like fog or snow, then you should see better with yellow. |
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Ian, that is one of the great all time finishes in racing. |
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4417 Location: Gresham, OR
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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That is intense even when you know how it turns out.
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Dewey316 wrote: | | Ian, that is one of the great all time finishes in racing. |
It seriously makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up. If we could get a few more races like that (sans wreckage and penalties) ALMS might get some popularity in the normal folk.
| chevymad wrote: | | Anything to the blue side of the spectrum causes more glare. To the red end is less glare. If you drive in reflective conditions like fog or snow, then you should see better with yellow. |
So I should get some red lights? Ooohh, evil.
| Schultzy89GTA wrote: | | That is intense even when you know how it turns out. |
I love watching it every once in awhile to remind me what a perfect career path I could've tried and failed at.  |
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Dewey316 The Lama

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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| iansane wrote: | remind me what a perfect career path I could've tried and failed at.  |
You have no idea. If I ever find my high school guidance councilor, we are going to have words. There are a whole list of careers I should have gone after.... |
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camarokid Member
Joined: 08 Jan 2011 Posts: 41 Location: Qualicum Beach
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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my camaro still has oem lights, but i i went wiht the bosch conversion housings on my dodge ram and PIAA H4's super white 6500kelvins. they are absolutley amazing for normal driving, but in the fog or snow the reflection back on the eyes is intense and a set of low kelvin lamps sure would make for better driving and less strain...
ya gotta ask ur self how much ya drive at night and in adverse conditions? _________________ Camaro Kid
1988 Sport coupe. black peral, Polished irocs, 383, wc t5 9 bolt, eibach sportlines ..... the list is to long
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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This is my daily driver. Well, ONLY driver. And I was driving it through our last snow burst a few days ago. I'm not afraid to blast down the road at WOT through the snow. (top down )
Does the yellow help in rain as well as snow/fog or just the crazy weather patterns? It sounds like I should just order the 6000K kit. |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Dewey316 wrote: | | You have no idea. If I ever find my high school guidance councilor, we are going to have words. There are a whole list of careers I should have gone after.... |
I think my counselor is the only reason I graduated. I can't count the number of times I heard, "Ian, if you fail another class because you're out in the parking lot messing with your car you won't graduate!"
*quarter later*
"Ian! If you fail another class..." |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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Our counselor quit, left us to figure out scholarships and financial aide on our own.  |
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