Cascade Crew

[91camaro_rs]

so the differences between v6 and v8 T5's are pretty much well known now, but i was told that from 88 on up the v6 and v8 T5's are the same... anyone got any info on this?

T5 swap is in my brain

[corey davidson]

The t5 for the v6 s10s are different from the v8 t5s after 88 i'm pretty sure if that helps any.

[91camaro_rs]

are t5's out of mustangs the same?

[91camaro_rs]

[RSFreak]

The bellhousings are different, obviously. I think the gear ratios are different as well, but not sure.

[aaron_sK]

Go drive John's '89 with the crap-ass V6 launch gear and then drive Al's '89 with a V8 T5. Then tell me how much the "same" they are.

[Al Hasse]

My '92 V6 T5 doesn't launch nearly as well as the '89 V8 T5. It never did, even when the '89 had the stock 3.08 rear gear.

[aaron_sK]

Some of the Camaro V6 T5's have the S10's very very low launch gear: 4.03:1, which is practically a granny. This was done to mask the lack of power from the veesix in something which may have been vaguely considered a "truck."

In later years (and carrying on into the 4th-gen T5's) the first gear ratio for the veesix was increased to 3.75.

For reference, your average V8 T5 has a 2.95:1 first, and the T56 has a 2.66 first gear.

[Twilightoptics]

Jebus.

Are we talking about fords, s-10's? or f-bodies?

F-Body:
V6 and V8 f-body trans are different.

Inputs are different.
Gears are different.
Cases are the same.
Main shafts are the same provided same style (Speedo Type/Placement, WC/NWC)

Regarding WC and NWC, the above still applies. Up to '88 was NON-WORLD-CLASS (NWC)
'88+ was WORLD CLASS (WC)
World class used tapered bearings on the counter shaft, and multipiece synchros on 1st and 2nd gear as well as a few other minute changes.

S-10 vs f-body:
S-10 inputs can be different.
Gears are different again.
Tailshafts are different.
Mainshafts are different to match tailshaft.
Shift Rail and Top cover are different.
Main case is the same.


Mustang:
Damn near everything is different.
Case/Gears/Input/Tail/Mainshaft/ETC.

4th Gen T5:
Just like the mustang, damn near everything is different yet.
And will NOT bolt up to a thirdgen/s-10 style bellhousing


Bellhousings:
All f-body T5 bellhousings will bolt up an f-body thirdgen or s-10 transmission. The engine side is either 90ºV8/4.3LV6 or 60º2.8L style


Gear Ratios:
Don't get me started.
There are tons of different ratios.
I know there are two common OD ratio's for F-body V8 cars. The LG4 got a numerically lower (aka lower RPM for the same speed) OD than the LB9 cars got. There used to be a code chart on TGO but I'm having trouble finding.


Any questions?

[chevymad]

I've heard that the 4th gen bellhousing pattern for the trans is the same as the mustang's. Do you know if thats true?

[Schultzy89GTA]

FWIW...

http://www.flatheadv8.org/ernie/ernie-t5.htm

http://www.britishv8.org/Articles/Borg-Warner-T5-ID-Tags.htm

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/Detailed/349.shtml

-Schultzy

[aaron_sK]

[iansane]

[Twilightoptics]

I've physically had one 4th gen t5 in hand, and it was different than the mustang. I don't know for SURE if that's a consistant trend. As the 4th gen T5's are for the V6 cars.

[chevymad]

Could very well be Paul. I had just heard that the transmission pattern where it bolts to the bellhousing is the same as the mustang. Length, output shaft, speedo etc could be different. But opens up some weird swaps.

[91camaro_rs]

ok so rule with t-5 for v8 f-body is get one from a v8 f-body haha

[nonsensekid20]

If someone wants to get me a t56 I can give Luke my T5. hahaha