Cascade Crew

MrMike98 · Member Joined: 18 May 2010 Posts: 231 Location: Bremerton

OK i have GTA with 4wd brakes stock, i want to upgrade.
C4,C5,LS1 ,bimbo,wildwood.,11"12" slotted, drilled etc.etc.????
what is the best bang for the buck and why?? keeping stock 16" lace wheels.

thanks
Mike

chevymad · Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject:

The cross laces are your limitation. Only a couple of options with those. I think Schultzy has the biggest that fit under those. Check his garage or maybe he'll post up.

Dewey316 · Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 5:45 pm Post subject:

I agree. With GTA wheels, you are limited. I think schultzy is running 12.4" rotors, with wilwood FSL calipers.

If you change out wheels then you have lots of options. If you want to join the arms race... the new hotness in the crew is 14" or larger rotors, and brembro or c6 ZO6 calipers.

You are really only limited by how much room you have under the wheels, and honestly that only limits rotor size. My best advice is to go with a 4 piston setup. Doing away with the floating caliper design, used on most GM cars, is the best move.

Wilwoods will be the best bang for the buck in this type of caliper, if you had more room than you could look at OEM Porsche, Z06, CTS-V, etc. But with the small rotor size wilwood is the way to go.

Schultzy89GTA · Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 6:25 pm Post subject:

Hey Mike,
Like they said, not a lot of aftermarket options with the crosslace. Dan (Alloy) did a lot of experimenting with LS setups. Problem with the 16" crosslace over the 16" IROC or others is that there is a taper inside of the crosslace which limits clearance.

Ed Miller on TGO had fabbed up a few setups and the Wilwood FSL 4 pot calipers seemed to be about the best you could do in the space. I also used coleman rotors with Wilwood aluminum hats. Big difference. Still haven't run a road course but a few of my favorite roads which would induce heavy fade on the stock setups didn't cause any issues with the new setup. Dropped quite a bit of weight off the front end as well.

Outside of that or another similar setup, you are on to aftermarket wheels. I love the crosslace look on my GTA so I went this route.

Lot's of brake experience on the board with different setups though. Good luck in your quest!

-Schultzy

Al Hasse · Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject:

I've heard that the stock crosslace wheels fit over the C5, I can run mine down to your place and see if the wheels fit over C5 and LS1. I.m working tomorrow, but free on Sunday.

91RSVert · Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:12 am Post subject:

Dean on tgo has some wild setup under stock Iroc rims. Its all custom work. He no longer has the car though.

chevymad · Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:48 am Post subject:

Iroc rims and the stock formy wheels have alot more room behind them then the crosslaces. When Dan was testing setups we tried both my wheels and mikes laces, mine fit, mikes didnt.

Schultzy89GTA · Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 10:56 am Post subject:

iansane · Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:01 pm Post subject:

I'll add that there is a lot of brake knowledge around here and second Schultzy's wilwood setup. About the only thing you can do with the crosslaces. They're awesome wheels but have horrible clearances. Now if they made them in 17, 18, 19" sizes...

91RSVert · Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:04 pm Post subject:

Just throwing the info out. Something worthy of going and looking at if he wants to get crazy

Al Hasse · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:39 pm Post subject:

C5 is out for the front. I went over to Mike's today to see if his wheels would fit over my brakes. Not without alot of grinding on the caliper, and then it still may not fit.

MrMike98 · Member Joined: 18 May 2010 Posts: 231 Location: Bremerton

I will talk with ED at F&B and get his reccomendation, yes no luck, but at least u got to wade there my messy garage...
again thanks for the help Al.
Mike

Al Hasse · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:44 pm Post subject:

Schultzy89GTA · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:19 pm Post subject:

Oh man. That would be bad ass *bookmarks*

-Schultzy

iansane · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:30 pm Post subject:

Dewey316 · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 10:49 pm Post subject:

Come on Ian, you have had your wheels for a good year or two now, it should be time for another change.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:44 am Post subject:

C4HD will be one of the easiest and cheapest.

Dewey316 · Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:52 am Post subject:

Schultzy89GTA · Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:52 am Post subject:

Weren't the C4HD setup that Dan originally had the ones that went on Paul's car? If so, I believe those were the first that we tried with the crosslace. No bueno due to the taper.

Maybe Dan can chime in and confirm or slap me around a bit. You know, Dan, the guy in denial with the red camero.

Very Happy

-Schultzy

Schultzy89GTA · Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:54 am Post subject: