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IROC-stangs Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 374
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:35 am Post subject: an few questions... |
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ok i'll probaly be headin in to shucks for a socket and while i was there i was thinking of grabbing a brake bleeder kit and sawzall. and i what size of socket will i need to get to the wheels with a torque wrench and do i just need a sawzall and a cutting blade to get the muffler off? i just want to make sure that i can get everything i need the first time. also i will be renting the bleeder kit and the sawzall and how long do you have tell it needs to be returned? also i just bought a craftsman 150psi air compressor and im wondering if i even needed something this big for now should i return or keep? http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/p_10155_12602_00915309000P?vName=Tools+%26+Equipment&cName=Equipment&sName=Compressors+%26+Air+Tools&keyword=150psi#
also i know atleast the 87 model yr for camaros they have the seat belt recall because the buckle with crack and stop latching and i have the same problem and on thirdgen.org it claims that the buckle can be replaced free and do i just need to call the chevy dealer and then bring it in or do i need to right down the recall # and such. |
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izcain 9sec Club
Joined: 09 Sep 2006 Posts: 1306 Location: Port Angeles WA
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 11:57 am Post subject: |
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I wouldn't worry about the brake bleeder it if you can find someone to pump the brakes for you, you can bleed them the manual way for FREE. Sockets for the wheels depend on what wheels you have one their chances are they are either a 13/16" or a 3/4".
A sawzall will take the muffler off but how are you planning on putting the new one on? Welding? or clamping if clamping you are going to want to make sure the muffler is swedged to fit over the pipe.
That compresser is a very small unit. If your working with air you are going to need something a whole lot bigger then that. But again it depends on what you are planning on using the air for. Just the simple tire fill or are you using air tools, paint guns, da's? it all depends. _________________
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IROC-stangs Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 374
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| izcain wrote: | I wouldn't worry about the brake bleeder it if you can find someone to pump the brakes for you, you can bleed them the manual way for FREE. Sockets for the wheels depend on what wheels you have one their chances are they are either a 13/16" or a 3/4".
A sawzall will take the muffler off but how are you planning on putting the new one on? Welding? or clamping if clamping you are going to want to make sure the muffler is swedged to fit over the pipe.
That compresser is a very small unit. If your working with air you are going to need something a whole lot bigger then that. But again it depends on what you are planning on using the air for. Just the simple tire fill or are you using air tools, paint guns, da's? it all depends. |
what do you mean bleed them manualy?
sorry i have stock 1st style IROC-Z wheels.
i was going try to clamp it on as i dont have a welder and dont know anyone around here that does that. sounds stupid but what do you mean by swedged?
ya i was mostly going use it for tires as mine go flat after a bit and just for cleaning of surfaces and possibly small painting stuff as advertised. and btw how does the air get into the unit or do i have to buy a cylider like you would for a propane bbq? lol. |
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flea Member

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 1246 Location: Raymond WA
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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Its a compressor. It compresses the air by sucking it in through a little straw. Then little strong men, (the type found at Coney Island) squish the air with their hands. In this case they squish it to 150 lbs per Square inch. As you no doubt remember from your physics classes FREE air cannot be compressed. That is why at gas stations etc. you must put some amount of money in the machine, therefore the relevant unit to consider for guys such as you and I is not how many PSI or even how large the storage tank (1.5 gal. in the link you provided) but how many quarters are needed to satisfy the no-free-air requirement. At my local gas station it is seventy five cents, but the little circus freak strong dudes are union, don't even ask for air during lunch.
J/K...mostly.
Its just an air pump man. It works just like a bicycle tire pump that a 13 year old near you might use on the BMX. But in this case an electric motor does the pumping instead of the neighbor kid. _________________ Killing mailboxes since 2009 |
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IROC-stangs Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 374
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| flea wrote: | Its a compressor. It compresses the air by sucking it in through a little straw. Then little strong men, (the type found at Coney Island) squish the air with their hands. In this case they squish it to 150 lbs per Square inch. As you no doubt remember from your physics classes FREE air cannot be compressed. That is why at gas stations etc. you must put some amount of money in the machine, therefore the relevant unit to consider for guys such as you and I is not how many PSI or even how large the storage tank (1.5 gal. in the link you provided) but how many quarters are needed to satisfy the no-free-air requirement. At my local gas station it is seventy five cents, but the little circus freak strong dudes are union, don't even ask for air during lunch.
J/K...mostly.
Its just an air pump man. It works just like a bicycle tire pump that a 13 year old near you might use on the BMX. But in this case an electric motor does the pumping instead of the neighbor kid. |
lol you put a quite a bit of time into that little story lol nice
wait you talkin bout me? the 13yr trying pump up a freakin bmx bike tire with a little portable pump? lol. |
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flea Member

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 1246 Location: Raymond WA
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| IROC-stangs wrote: | | flea wrote: | Its a compressor. It compresses the air by sucking it in through a little straw. Then little strong men, (the type found at Coney Island) squish the air with their hands. In this case they squish it to 150 lbs per Square inch. As you no doubt remember from your physics classes FREE air cannot be compressed. That is why at gas stations etc. you must put some amount of money in the machine, therefore the relevant unit to consider for guys such as you and I is not how many PSI or even how large the storage tank (1.5 gal. in the link you provided) but how many quarters are needed to satisfy the no-free-air requirement. At my local gas station it is seventy five cents, but the little circus freak strong dudes are union, don't even ask for air during lunch.
J/K...mostly.
Its just an air pump man. It works just like a bicycle tire pump that a 13 year old near you might use on the BMX. But in this case an electric motor does the pumping instead of the neighbor kid. |
lol you put a quite a bit of time into that little story lol nice
wait you talkin bout me? the 13yr trying pump up a freakin bmx bike tire with a little portable pump? lol. |
Actually no, I didn't spend much time on that at all. It would take a very strong person to compress air by hand; these strong guys would have to be very small to fit in the compressor housing; free air cannot be compressed leading to the idea of paying for air (one of my pet peeves, and a play on words see.) This leads to the hint that not only is PSI important, but also the tank size, in your case 1.5 gal. thats very small. Union reference is because you have obviously never worked with a union, if you had you would know what I mean about not approaching during lunch. See these things just pop into my mind. See no time at all spent on this story lol.
The tire pump came from watching a guy at dyno pumping up his car tire with a bicycle pump. No offense to the guy with the pump but that struck me as funny. 13 years old?? well all good stories have a grain of truth to them don't they. _________________ Killing mailboxes since 2009 |
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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I would almost think you would want a bigger air-compressor. But, just starting out, some air is better than no air. But, if you lack the other hand tools your need, as handy as the compressed air is, if you are short on money, there is probably other hand tools you could spend the money on.
(note: big and air compressor in this group can mean a lot of things. Most of us who run air, have 30gal+ tanks) |
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IROC-stangs Member
Joined: 06 Jan 2010 Posts: 374
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Dewey316 wrote: | I would almost think you would want a bigger air-compressor. But, just starting out, some air is better than no air. But, if you lack the other hand tools your need, as handy as the compressed air is, if you are short on money, there is probably other hand tools you could spend the money on.
(note: big and air compressor in this group can mean a lot of things. Most of us who run air, have 30gal+ tanks) |
ya i know its pretty small but i wont really be doing much with it other then pumping up tires and blowing away dust so i want something more portable and i dont wanna spend a bunch of money on a medium size air compressor and have to buy a whole new one a while later. ya some of those tanks are huge 80+gal tanks. |
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IROC-stangs Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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| also my duplex is crap for advalible watts if i just use a 1000watt light which is all i have along with my smaller radio the power will shut off and does anyone know if there is anything to do about that? i dont understand how i'll be able to when i really start workin on the car to use a 1000watt light, drill, air compressor, jammin def leppard, and some other small if i have to at the same time and have the power not to turn off. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Use of multiple circuits is your friend. |
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IROC-stangs Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | Use of multiple circuits is your friend. |
but it all goes to the same place so does that really make a diffrence? |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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You are not "running out of watts".
Your shop most likely has all the outlets on 14ga wire to a single 15amp breaker (stupid on the part of the builders, but I digress).
You are pulling to much amperage due to spikes from the electric motors switching on, which flips the breaker.
If you are going to run a compressor it needs to be on it's own dedicated outlet with it's own breaker, with some 12ga wire going to it. |
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