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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:24 pm    Post subject: ignition kill switch Reply with quote

was wondering how much would this be to get and to get installed because last thing i want is my camaro stolen. sure i will have a top of line alarm but i still would like something extra. any idea's how much it would be? thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About $4 for a switch at radio shack, then it is just a matter of a little wire, and desciding what you want to kill, fuel or spark.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dewey316 wrote:
About $4 for a switch at radio shack, then it is just a matter of a little wire, and desciding what you want to kill, fuel or spark.


i really dont know how to do wiring though and dont wanna shock the shiz out of myself.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

unhook the battery and you won't shock yourself. Whenever you work on the electric's you should unhook the battery.

Other than that, it is just a matter of picking what you want to shut off, and how you want to do that. Basicly just installing a switch inline to not allow one peice to turn on.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dewey316 wrote:
unhook the battery and you won't shock yourself. Whenever you work on the electric's you should unhook the battery.

Other than that, it is just a matter of picking what you want to shut off, and how you want to do that. Basicly just installing a switch inline to not allow one peice to turn on.


what is easier to do fuel or elec? i have not 1 clue in wiring so im just taking a shot at this but do i have to kinda cut into a current wire and burn another wire into a old one and connect to switch? sorry i have no idea what im talking about lol.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes that is pretty much, what you are going to do, is put a switch on one of the wires, so that without the switch being turned on, the relay won't triger (you don't want to put a switch in on one of the actual power wires to the stuff, you want to just turn off the ability of the relay to energize).

There are lots of ways to do it, just a matter of getting the right wire. Although, doing this, is always going to be one more thing to check if you have problems with the car.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I put the T-56 in my IROC I had to move the ignition lockout from the shifter above the tunnel, to the clutch pedal. It's a 10ga wire that goes in yellow and comes out purple.

I figured since I was cutting the wires anyway, and I had the tranny tunnel all torn apart, I got a bunch of wire and ran it through the console to the rear passenger ashtray (underneath the center glovebox).

Got a nice fat switch from Schmucks and installed it inside the ashtray. Cut the back of the ashtray out so it was only the flip door. Even sitting in the back seats you would never ever notice it (unless you were smoking, which you wouldn't be in my damn car Evil or Very Mad)

Car doesn't need that circuit to run, just to spin the starter, so it was as simple as reaching back to hit the switch, reach forward to start, then flip the switch back off.

So if you see a nice black IROC being driven around Lacey by a short redhaired guy with a beard, now you know how to steal his car. Yup yup


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dewey316 wrote:
Yes that is pretty much, what you are going to do, is put a switch on one of the wires, so that without the switch being turned on, the relay won't triger (you don't want to put a switch in on one of the actual power wires to the stuff, you want to just turn off the ability of the relay to energize).

There are lots of ways to do it, just a matter of getting the right wire. Although, doing this, is always going to be one more thing to check if you have problems with the car.


ok i think i might get this so if a relay is what im thinking it is it lets the power go thru the wire but when you hit the switch the relay kinda closes like blocking the power from going thru that wire tell the switch is flipped back correct?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sort of, yes.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
When I put the T-56 in my IROC I had to move the ignition lockout from the shifter above the tunnel, to the clutch pedal. It's a 10ga wire that goes in yellow and comes out purple.

I figured since I was cutting the wires anyway, and I had the tranny tunnel all torn apart, I got a bunch of wire and ran it through the console to the rear passenger ashtray (underneath the center glovebox).

Got a nice fat switch from Schmucks and installed it inside the ashtray. Cut the back of the ashtray out so it was only the flip door. Even sitting in the back seats you would never ever notice it (unless you were smoking, which you wouldn't be in my damn car Evil or Very Mad)

Car doesn't need that circuit to run, just to spin the starter, so it was as simple as reaching back to hit the switch, reach forward to start, then flip the switch back off.

So if you see a nice black IROC being driven around Lacey by a short redhaired guy with a beard, now you know how to steal his car. Yup yup


cool i was thinking of placing it possibly under the dash or maybe under a more hidden piece of upholstery in the interior with the switch behind that so it cant be seen.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dewey316 wrote:
sort of, yes.


so what do i all have to remove to get to the wire i would want and how long of a process is this?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it depends on what wire you are getting at. and where you are putting the switch. There is more than one way to skin this cat.

How long... I could probably get something going in 15minutes, but again, it depends on what wires you descide to access, and where you want to mount the switch.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dewey316 wrote:
it depends on what wire you are getting at. and where you are putting the switch. There is more than one way to skin this cat.

How long... I could probably get something going in 15minutes, but again, it depends on what wires you descide to access, and where you want to mount the switch.


im trying to think of a good location i just dont want to accidently bump it with my leg or something but i dont wanna be tearin stuff apart and i want it to be well hidden...
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

inside the front ashtray is always a great place to hide switches. That is where i currently have my nitrous and exaust cut-out switches.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do not put it under the dash. Any idiot car thief knows to look for a valet switch.

Use something clever like the cig. lighter, or use a stock switch like the map light switch in your upper console.

*Edit: Ninja'd by John. Doh!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dewey316 wrote:
inside the front ashtray is always a great place to hide switches. That is where i currently have my nitrous and exaust cut-out switches.


thanks both of you i'm going have to go out and look at my camaro tomorrow when i finally (hopefull) finish waxin her up and look where i might want the switch. what place is a more easier area to hook up a switch?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You want either:

1) A preexisting switch or button that is unused.

2) An area that is easily reached by the driver, can have wire strung to it, is not visible by driver or passengers, and is not under the dash by the drivers leg like everyone else's. Razz
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Friend of mine used a female RCA connector on the dash in plain view. Then he had an RCA connector "fob" on his keychain. The fob completed the circuit when it was plugged in. Noone would ever think of doing THAT. Way less obvious than a switch.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blue89 wrote:
Friend of mine used a female RCA connector on the dash in plain view. Then he had an RCA connector "fob" on his keychain. The fob completed the circuit when it was plugged in. Noone would ever think of doing THAT. Way less obvious than a switch.


Dude... that idea... Thumbs up
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
blue89 wrote:
Friend of mine used a female RCA connector on the dash in plain view. Then he had an RCA connector "fob" on his keychain. The fob completed the circuit when it was plugged in. Noone would ever think of doing THAT. Way less obvious than a switch.


Dude... that idea... Thumbs up


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An idea from a forgotten generation...
My grandfather had a 1965 Oldsmobile 442. He had a brilliant anti theft device. he had a line lock installed in his brake system.

a line lock, for the newbie crewbies is an electric valve on the brake lines that will allow pressure to flow one way, but not the other. a common use of this is to use a line lock to lock the front brake lines of a car, so you can pump them up, locking them, and then remove your foot from the break, and still have the brakes grabbing and holding. now you can do a sick burnout without trying to hold your foot on the brake and gas, not to mention you are not trying to over power your rear brakes.

he had line locks on the entire brake system, and he had a hidden switch that would activate them. he would park, and turn them on, then get out of the car. if someone stole it, (and this occurred twice) they would get in the car, start it up via some method, and drive away, thinking they got away. then they would hit the brakes at a stop light or intersection, and the car would be stuck there. the more they pushed the brakes, the harder they were stuck. they hit the gas, the car dies. both times it was stolen he walked around the block and found it.

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