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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
1992 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: New plug wires |
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I had one get a little too close to the headers and cracked the insulation a bit. Didn't notice any misfire ore anything, but did notice what sort of sounded like a lifter.
I'm in the process of pulling out the old ones and replacing them with 8mm MSD cut to length Street Fire wires, and routing them under the header tubes and out the back of the motor. Passenger side is done and looks much better than before, pretty tough job with all the A.I.R. stuff still on the motor. What was hard was the separators that I used to route and dress the wires while still under the header tubes.
Now that I have four done, is there an easier way to put the boot on the end of the wire? Is it it easier to put it on prior to crimping the connector on the end or afterward? _________________ 92 Camaro
89 Camaro
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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Use dielectric. A LOT of dielectric. And rags, because the grease makes your hands too slippery to push the wire through the boot.
Don't know about MSD's, but on the Taylors you have to put the boot on the wire first, then crimp, then pull the boot forward. Otherwise it wont fit over the metal. |
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4417 Location: Gresham, OR
1989 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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Always been much easier to slip the wire through the boot, then strip/crimp and pull back into boot.
Have fun!
-Schultzy _________________ Red Sled: 89 GTA, 383, TKO, N2O
12.73 @ 109.39, 1.793 60 \ 11.794 @ 121.16, 1.62 60 (old combo) |
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
1992 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess I did the first 4 the hard way, the wires were large enough so the crimped end connectors fit through the boot with a good bit of persuasion. Four more and the coil wire to do tomorrow. Thanks guys. |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
1991 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Ditto on ton of grease. Made them muuuuuch easier to work with. _________________
| Quote: | | Sometimes I actually think I'm slightly retarded in the mouth. |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
1987 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| I like to use silicone spray instead of grease. But you gotta get the wire in teh boot quick before the spray dries. Onces its in there though its pretty permanent and not all greasy. |
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:51 am Post subject: Re: New plug wires |
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| Al Hasse wrote: | | Didn't notice any misfire ore anything, but did notice what sort of sounded like a lifter. |
That would be the sound of the spark arcing from the wire to the closest point of conduction. I know from experience!  _________________ '86 Trans Am - 5.0L TPI - LT1 cam - 700R4 - WS6
'85 Camaro Berlinetta - IROC clone
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
1987 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:55 am Post subject: Re: New plug wires |
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| RSFreak wrote: | | Al Hasse wrote: | | Didn't notice any misfire ore anything, but did notice what sort of sounded like a lifter. |
That would be the sound of the spark arcing from the wire to the closest point of conduction. I know from experience!  |
Just make sure you're not the closest point. That IS an experience. |
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
1992 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 11:43 am Post subject: |
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I knew what the noise was after I found the cracked insulation. I have been the closest ground point before, quite the experience
Got the rest of the wires on this morning, and while putting them in, I found #3 plug wasn't even finger tight in the head, so one more performance issue fixed.
Now I need to replace a fan switch that I've been putting off, I messed up the connector a but while I was underneath and doing the passenger side. Turns out I have a temp sender there and the connector is a ring with a nut to hold it on. I've had new switch and connector for some time, but now it's a necessity to get it replaced. |
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83Z28BlackBetty Bam-Ba-Lam

Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 2083 Location: Aloha
1983 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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let me know how you like those wires al, we sell those at work and i have a cracked wire. i've been thinking of getting a set for a while.
~JAKE _________________ 1983 Z-28 5.7 LT1, T56, Headman headers, BW 9 Bolt Posi Disc, WS6 suspension
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I had a set of Taylor's on my IROC, as well as the Monterey. $60 for the set, plus $25 for the tool is a bit steep, but they are excellent quality. |
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
1992 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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The crimp tool came with the ones I have, about $45 for the set. Didn't have a vise to put in in though, channel lock pliers worked just fine. I may have to get another set, or maybe switch a couple around, I think I got #3 a little on the short side
Jake, I'll let you know as soon as I replace the fan switch and pigtail. The weather has been a bit uncooperative for working under the car in the driveway. |
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