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Boostd1 12sec Club

Joined: 28 Oct 2008 Posts: 437 Location: Thornton, Colorado
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: Failed Emissions lol (UPDATE...PASSED!!!) |
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Well, everything passed with flying colors...hell they even passed me on my EVAP system (Which I don't have )
HC was half the limit...
CO was significantly lower than the limit...
Passed OBD Codes (Thank you HPTuners!!! )
Only thing was NOx output...over 4 times the limit!!! My guess is that this reading is high because the combustion temps are too high...I am running stock plugs on the L32 (Iridiums) and no EGR (I know that would fix that, but I'm determined to pass with no EVAP and no EGR!!!) I think AL104's will extract enough heat from the combustion chamber to pass the test...thoughts?
Remember, this is all on E85 with no EGR or EVAP  _________________ 1998 Grand Prix GT | 12.91 @ 103 - Sold/Retired
2008 Saturn Astra XR | Sold
2007 Infiniti G35x | Current DD
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fiveoformula Member

Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 1799 Location: OR
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Have no idea there, wouldn't you want a colder burning plug? I do know that last time I passed emissions with my EGR bypassed. lol I would have failed with one more hydrocarbon, no joke, 219/220. lol _________________
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Boostd1 12sec Club

Joined: 28 Oct 2008 Posts: 437 Location: Thornton, Colorado
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Haha thats funny...
Yeah thats my idea, Iridiums burn all kinds f hot, and AL104's burn WAY cooler. Like 3-4 steps I think. _________________ 1998 Grand Prix GT | 12.91 @ 103 - Sold/Retired
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fiveoformula Member

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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Cool hopefully that works... How are the emission laws over there? |
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Boostd1 12sec Club

Joined: 28 Oct 2008 Posts: 437 Location: Thornton, Colorado
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Umm..
Allowed HC is 1.5000
CO limit is 15.0000
NOx limit is 1.50000 _________________ 1998 Grand Prix GT | 12.91 @ 103 - Sold/Retired
2008 Saturn Astra XR | Sold
2007 Infiniti G35x | Current DD |
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DBL_TKE Member

Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1505 Location: Aloha, OR
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Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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I hate you  _________________ Richmond 3.73 posi| 36/24 sway bars | SLP LM2 | Koni's | Ground Control 800/200 | Y2K wheels | Dyno Don headers & Y-pipe | airfoil | BBK underdrive pulleys | Raised strut mounts | Extended ball joints | LCARB'S
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91RSVert Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:07 am Post subject: |
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Since your running boost, I would think you would want to put similar plugs in to that of the L67? _________________ 2008 GMC Z71
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"

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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| Boostd1 wrote: | Umm..
Allowed HC is 1.5000
CO limit is 15.0000
NOx limit is 1.50000 |
High elevation FTW!! _________________
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DBL_TKE Member

Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1505 Location: Aloha, OR
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Boostd1 wrote: | Umm..
Allowed HC is 1.5000
CO limit is 15.0000
NOx limit is 1.50000 |
Wow, what unit of measure are using? Those numbers are completely different than over here. _________________ Richmond 3.73 posi| 36/24 sway bars | SLP LM2 | Koni's | Ground Control 800/200 | Y2K wheels | Dyno Don headers & Y-pipe | airfoil | BBK underdrive pulleys | Raised strut mounts | Extended ball joints | LCARB'S
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Boostd1 12sec Club

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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| 91RSVert wrote: | | Since your running boost, I would think you would want to put similar plugs in to that of the L67? |
Yeah its weird though, I am running the plugs that came with the stock L32 motor (basically a newer L67) and I guess they burn WAY too hot for emissions  _________________ 1998 Grand Prix GT | 12.91 @ 103 - Sold/Retired
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91RSVert Member
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| oh, I thought the L32 was the nonboosted 3800. |
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Boostd1 12sec Club

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Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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| 91RSVert wrote: | | oh, I thought the L32 was the nonboosted 3800. |
Series II Engines
L36 - Naturally Aspirated 3800 V6
L67 - Supercharged 3800 V6
Series III Engines
L26 - Naturally Aspirated 3800 V6
L32 - Supercharged 3800 V6
Just for clarity lol
Anyway, going to swap out the plugs this Sunday...hope it does the trick  _________________ 1998 Grand Prix GT | 12.91 @ 103 - Sold/Retired
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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Update! Found a vacuum leak. Caused LTFT's and STFT's to be maxxed out causing a super duper lean condition. Car should pass with flying colors now  _________________ 1998 Grand Prix GT | 12.91 @ 103 - Sold/Retired
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fiveoformula Member

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Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Dang vacuum leaks... |
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Boostd1 12sec Club

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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:43 am Post subject: |
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| fiveoformula wrote: | | Dang vacuum leaks... |
Hate them! But it's kind of bogus because the aftermarket adapter plate for the Gen V blower to a 97 throttle body totally doesn't cover up on of the passages It was just a huge hole for unmetered air to enter the motor! _________________ 1998 Grand Prix GT | 12.91 @ 103 - Sold/Retired
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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JB weld!! _________________
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| 90droptoproc wrote: | | JB weld!! |
You sound like an early Rotary guy! _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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90droptoproc Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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lol _________________
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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They like to weld up ANYTHING and EVERYTHING JB style. lol _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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90droptoproc Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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figure it's an aluminum adaptor, and just cause you and I can weld alum at home doesn't mean he can  _________________
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