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HONDASLAYER · Last edited by HONDASLAYER on Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:14 pm; edited 1 time in total

Ok today on the way home from costless auto parts. in the parking lot i couldn't get my tranny into 1st gear, and some times when i'm creeping forward then stop and shift to reverse it is spinning and it grindes. so i have to pull forward a little then shift to R while rolling. Now today as i aproached a red light i down shifted through all the gears and everything sounded ok until i got it in 1st. It started makeing a high pitched whineas i got slower, it kept doing so every time i came to a stop in that gear. I couldn't go into N as i came to a stop because i can't go into 1st. from a stand still. Also, when i park my car, turn it off and try to shift it into R even with the clutch pressed all the way to the floor it won't release from the gear it's in.......... Bashy Bashy

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Ok, now I think it's the clutch pack.. or the syncros... or the throw out bearing. I mostly just hope its the clutch pack and that i just need a new one. Old one off / new one on. ....
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What do you guys think???????????

Alphius · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:58 pm Post subject:

Sounds like shot synchronizer on 1st to me. Could be a bent 1-2 shift fork though. You can only get it to go into first with the car rolling slowly? How about with the car off? Not sure what you mean about reverse "freely releasing."

Do you beat on your car a lot? If it was my tranny I'd pull it and take it apart and see what the synchros/blockers/shift forks look like. I don't know your level of mechanical expertise. Might have to take it to an expert or buy another known good tranny if you're not comfortable tearing into it.

Reverse and first use almost the same path for torque through the gears, so if you have problems with one, the other will be sketchy too.

Simple fix would be to just start out in second everywhere. Razz

And park where you don't need reverse. I went for a couple months with no 5 or R in my tranny and it was fine, just a little pushing now and then. Laughing

And creative parking.

Good luck.

aaron_sK · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:14 pm Post subject:

My $$$ is on the hydraulics. Will the car roll forward in gear if you rev it with the clutch on the floor?

HONDASLAYER · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:16 pm Post subject:

Could it be just a clutch pack ? If the clutch isn't releasing and going into N all the way wouldn't it cause the same problems.???

Twilightoptics · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject:

Usually you can run through the gears engine off clutch up.

Take a look at your clutch adjustment.

And your fluid level.

Reverse works off the back of the maincase in the trans, has no relation to 1st.

HONDASLAYER · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:36 pm Post subject:

Ok the cheapest i can find a clutch pack replacement for is around $425. But it's at clutch doctors in vancouver. But all i've got is like $150. And i absolutly can't have my car out of commision for longer than the weekend. what the hell i'm i gonna do??????????????

HONDASLAYER · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject:

HONDASLAYER · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:52 pm Post subject:

Hey anybody know what size flywheel goes on a 305ci?

Twilightoptics · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:02 pm Post subject:

Can't help this weekend man. Can sneak to the computer while at work but hard to talk on the phone.

Your 305 will have a 153 tooth flywheel. It's a 10.5" clutch. Don't buy one till you know what the problem is. It doesn't sound like it's the clutch itself. Sounds like an adjustment or an internal problem.

You can buy throw out bearings individually for like $30-40.

Baxters has a clutch set for $200 if you're really thinking thats it.

Check the adjustment. Take the springs off the arms and adjust the rod until there is no more play. If there was alot of play, that's your problem.

If that doesn't fix it, and the trans is full of oil.... pull the trans and look for something broken.

HONDASLAYER · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 4:14 pm Post subject:

found a clutch set at napa for $100. I need a new flywheel or at least ring gear already anyways. i just figured if i have to replace the clutch set i should replace the fltwheel too. I'll probably get the clutch set sat. then jack her up and check the adjustments and check the tranny and if i don't need the clutch pack i'll just take it back so i can still buy the 350ci on mon. Surprised

d00012 · Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject:

I had a very similar problem with my Camaro. Both flex plate and pressure plate were badly worn (looked like factory), and the throw-out bearing was broken. Was extremely touchy when I would shift, depressing the clutch too much caused it to grind, would do it when I shifted from 2nd to 3rd. Coming to a stop it would make that grinding noise. I thought my transmission was going out, luckily it was only the clutch pack.

HONDASLAYER · Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:29 am Post subject:

see i'm staying optamistic about the whole thing. the tranny has only been in my car for like 4 months. and it was perfict when it went in. so if its the tranny i might just sell the thing cause i don't want a sports car that is a paper wieght more than it's a sports car. so if it's the clutch pack then it makes sense why the guy before me put an over sized spring on the clutch fork. If thats what it ends up being maybe i should drive back up to st. helens and kick his a$$..................so great i'm supposed to put my new intake on this weekend and now i get to deal with this crap... Bashy Bashy

Twilightoptics · Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:23 am Post subject:

Oversized spring on the fork?

Didn't we take your clutch off? It looked fine then.

HONDASLAYER · Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 12:23 pm Post subject:

Twilightoptics · Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 1:50 pm Post subject:

On a mechanical setup there are two springs.

One spring holds the Z bar to the clutch fork so that the adjustment rod cannot come out. The other spring goes from the clutch fork to the exhaust or something forward to pull the clutch fork off the fingers to prevent rattles.

HONDASLAYER · Posted: Sat Jul 11, 2009 2:16 pm Post subject:

OH......

Quasi-Traction · Posted: Sun Jul 12, 2009 9:30 am Post subject:

I only have one spring on mine b/t the K-member and the fork to take up the free-play.

Confused

Mine doesn't chatter. My Haynes manual only showed one spring.

aaron, check the adjustment on the pushrod to the fork. I had to put an extra jam nut on mine to keep it from backing out over time.

Also check on the bottom end of the Z-bar (from underneath the car) there should be two holes, IIRC the pushrod that goes to the fork should be in the lower hole.

Outlaw28 · Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:50 pm Post subject:

if you shift into a gear then into reverse while holding clutch it shouldnt grind...but it will grind if u just shift st8 to reverse...reverse has no synchro...if ur ganna put all that money into it...might as well just get new trans...thats what i did when my 5th gear went out...i upgraded to a tko600 im very very happy with it...

aaron_sK · Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:52 pm Post subject:

For that much money a T56 swap would be a better option IMHO.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:27 pm Post subject: