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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject: new problem today |
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| my car never seems to ever be completly fixed for at least a day...my car kept pulling to the right so i had my alignment done twice, and that wasnt the problem so they said it might be that the tire was bad they checked that and rotated them and it still pulls, so now they are saying that its something in my steering or front end? anyone know what might be going on? |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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You need to take it somewhere else.
Ask around friends and at work for a a good recommendation for a shop.
If it's aligned it shouldn't pull. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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85 T/A WS6 Member
Joined: 18 Feb 2004 Posts: 539 Location: Buckley
1985 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Ill bite.....worn idler arm? _________________
1985 Trans Am Recaro Option (AS5)
67,000 miles 5.0 TPI Hi Flow MAF
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d00012 Member

Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 679 Location: Granite Falls
2007 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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Any vibration? _________________
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
1986 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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| 85 T/A WS6 wrote: | | Ill bite.....worn idler arm? |
I'm thinking this one. Pull the front end off the ground and start wiggling steering stuff. |
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d00012 Member

Joined: 12 Apr 2009 Posts: 679 Location: Granite Falls
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Same here, I have the same problem (have no idea why I haven't changed it yet) and it's the idler arm. _________________
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
1986 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| It could also be a stuck caliper. Are the brakes recently done? I would of hoped that the "alignment" people would have noticed a sloppy steering. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| blue89 wrote: | | I would of hoped that the "alignment" people would have noticed a sloppy steering. |
Agreed.
If the caliper was making it pull that bad, it'd be smoking I'd think. Unless it only pulls under braking? _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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91RSVert Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 2736 Location: AR
1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:40 am Post subject: |
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The shops here will refuse to alighn it if anything is worn. _________________ 2008 GMC Z71
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| What shop are you going to that's giving you the runaround like this? |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| 91RSVert wrote: | | The shops here will refuse to alighn it if anything is worn. |
That's understandable, but they aren't telling you what's worn? Do these guys not want to make $$? _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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91RSVert Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 2736 Location: AR
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Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Twilightoptics wrote: | | That's understandable, but they aren't telling you what's worn? Do these guys not want to make $$? |
Oh, they tell ya. Ask if you want them to fix it for x amount.
But I agree with travis for most part. Ive been told to check the LINKAGE, it has to be on the ground. Grab next to each joint and see if that joint wiggles.
Now for the ball joints. Jack it up and have it on stands under the front "frame rails". Then take a board, pry bar, etc. And "pry" against the tire while someone watchs under the car to see if the spidle goes up, but control arm stays in place.
But most of all, if the shop cant tell you whats wrong, its not a good shop. |
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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| it doesnt vibrate at all and it doesnt pull under braking it just pulls when i drivin, what does an idler arm look like? im new to steering stuff |
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Dewey316 The Lama

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| The idler arm bolts onto the passanger side frame rail, in front of the sway bar, then it attaches to the steering. |
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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| oh ok ill take a look at it in a few, does it have to be lifted up before i can check for movement or can i check it on the ground? |
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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 10:16 am Post subject: |
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| ok i took a look at it and the thing that connects to the pitman arm and the idler arem whatever its called thats in the middle of the two, i grabbed it with both hands and shook it and it moved a little when i shook it hard, is that normal? |
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
1986 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| It should twist but not move left-right. Again, something the alignment shop should have noticed. |
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DBL_TKE Member

Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1505 Location: Aloha, OR
1991 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like you need a new center link. _________________ Richmond 3.73 posi| 36/24 sway bars | SLP LM2 | Koni's | Ground Control 800/200 | Y2K wheels | Dyno Don headers & Y-pipe | airfoil | BBK underdrive pulleys | Raised strut mounts | Extended ball joints | LCARB'S
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Big channel locks. Clamp the tie rod to the center link. If you get more than 1/16" play replace the joint. Just don't clamp on the Zerk grease fitting. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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91camaro_rs Member

Joined: 03 Dec 2008 Posts: 1712 Location: Fox Island, Wa
1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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took it in to a shop in tacoma and they found out whats up:
i need Both lower ball joints and both outer tie rod ends and a new idler arm and they recommended to get my bearings packed |
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