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chevymad
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:29 pm    Post subject: More breakage Reply with quote

I'm coming to the conclusion that using 1.6 rockers with a voodoo cam is a no/no. Seems I fixed my rocker stud breakage problem, only to break a valve spring this time. Idling through town at 20mph no less. I'm really hoping that the spring didnt stack and wipe my cam. The pushrod appears unbent though, so I think i'm good.



These are the springs recommended by lunati for my camshaft. Coil bind is at 1.06..I figured out I have 0.088 extra space. Summit tech recommended 0.060 extra, he also recommended the same spring again. So I should be good. Springs are pretty stiff though, with my 0.522 lift the spring pressure open is almost 350lbs. They're 108lbs on the seat. I've got a 0.040 thick oil shedder under the retainer. I think i'm going to ditch that to lower the pressure just a bit, and add some more breathing room. The springs are 462 lbs/in rate. So losing 0.040in is right at 20lbs of pressure. Any thoughts?
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Twilightoptics
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only that your springs are way too stiff for what you need.

I was under the imrpession that solids need more spring pressure, and you're running a pressure close to what I am with the dual spring.

My 1.6 are doing okay so far. Knock on wood.

Still wonder about a possible oiling problem. You've got polylocks right?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya, I have polylocks. And I tried to set lash with the motor running a month ago. So much oil splashing off the rockers I had to shut her down.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just noticed in the pic, that theres a polish mark mid spring. I can barely see it in my hand, but shows up well in the pic. Wonder what thats from?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you're doing right in turning down the spring pressure.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This things always been noisey, I'm thinking that the high pressure collapses the lifters. It's quiet when cold, but once the oil is hot it chatters at various rpm.
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Summit is the best. Got my springs this afternoon and i'm on the road again! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did it get noisy again when it got warmed up?
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2009 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I only have 1/2 of the oil shields off.. Still need to do the other head. Yes theres some noise still, but I think its quieter.
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