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91RSVert · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:23 am Post subject: Installing 4l60e Q's

Well, poll says install the 4l60e, so now I got questions.

1. What rpm tq converter should I use? Factory 700r4 is around 1640. The s10 blazer is 1800, LS1 is 1425. I have a 350 TPI with headers. Any brands to stay away from?

2. If I read right, the shifter cable for 700r4 is same as 60e?

3. Flex plate. My motor is a crate motor, I ASSUME its internally balanced, so what year motors can I start looking for one of these?

4. Has anyone tried installing the deep fluid pan on a lowered 3rd gen?

5. Are the cooler/radiator lines the same threads and length? Get new or used?

I'm making a list of parts, and I need alot more parts then I thought, but I can make it work.

blue89 · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:24 am Post subject: Re: Installing 4l60e Q's

91RSVert · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:34 am Post subject:

Travis, will a 700r4 converter fit in the 60e bell/case?

You got a good trans pan? I need one. Dont think I need any other parts.... think is key word.

And I dont have a flexplate. I was asking so I know what years I can go get one from, rather then paying new price.

blue89 · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:42 am Post subject:

The early 4l60e is the same as the 700r4. So not sure what year you are going to get but the early ones are physically the same thing. Here is the late 4l60e. Here is the early 4l60e. You would probably do best by getting a TC that matches your tranny. What year is the one you have?

It was a pain trying to get the shifter plate mounted to my LT1 car. It was a manual chassis so I had to cover the hole and make the brackets to mount the shifter. I never got it lined up quite right. I guess the kid I sold it too got lined up though.

I have 2 good 4l60e pans and a deep aluminum B&M pan.

91RSVert · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:04 am Post subject:

Mine came from a 2000 model. It also has a deep style pan with a hole punched in it to drain fluids. If I get a converter to match, that makes it an 1800 rpm.

calculating on that site. 70mph, I should be at 2150rpm. 1800rpm is 58-59mph. Is that a good spot?

91RSVert · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:26 am Post subject:

converters...

1995 LT1, 1568rpm (early 60e)
1991 TPI, 1639rpm (700r)
2000 LS1, 1425rpm (late 60e)
2000 4.3, 1800rpm (late 60e)

I actually like that LT1 range, damn close to the tpi one. Wonder if an early would interchange with a late?

blue89 · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:28 am Post subject:

So is it a one piece case or two? They may have put an old tranny in the S10. You never know what chevy did Rolling Eyes

If it's one piece I have parts for you. Heck, i could even send you valve bodies and solenoids just to make sure you get a passenger car setup instead of the truck.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:36 am Post subject:

Don't think you're going to notice much on the converters.

I'd get ahold of Continental and tell them what you're doing and have them get you a converter to match your motor/gearing/transmission.

91RSVert · Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:47 am Post subject:

I think its a 2 piece. But I'll go look, I gotta pay the storage bill anyway. Laughing

Now I just thought mentioning of selnoids. Thats all controlled via the ecm/pcm. Wont the "locking up" also be controlled via it? Or you gotta have enough fluid pressure prior to the pcm making it lock up. IE, I have a 1425 converter, but the pcm wont lock it up tell 1650? (sorry if I sound stupid, Ive never done anything with an auto except change filter/fluid)

91RSVert · Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:03 am Post subject:

2 piece, code says its a 98 model. Heres a pic.

91RSVert · Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:07 am Post subject:

Parts list, help me see if I'm forgetting anything.

Trans have
flex plate
tq converter
shifter have
shifter knob have
lines to radiator
trans pan, filter, fluid
cable from shifter to trans have
cable from shifter to column ??
pcm/correct wiring done
tans hump to mount shifter to
check tube and dip stick have

optional fluid temp gauge

anything else besides a brain Laughing

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blue89 · Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:46 am Post subject:

Ya, sorry, can't help you at all.

You only need the shifter to column cable ifyou want the key lock there. that's all it does.

aaron_sK · Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 12:45 pm Post subject:

I have a converter (might not be the same 700 to 4l60 tho) flexplate, two coolers, and a temp gauge with no sender if you want 'em.

91RSVert · Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 6:30 pm Post subject:

I dunno if the 700r will fit or not. It is a diff part number, but that could just be for the rpm band.

What year did the flex plate come from?

Can I order just the sender on the gauge? Ive never looked.

aaron_sK · Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject:

Flexplate is one-piece RMS from my '87. Autometer sells replacement temp senders off of Summit.