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305 302eater Member
Joined: 18 Feb 2007 Posts: 604 Location: port orchard
1992 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:51 am Post subject: sagging door |
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ok was wondering how hard it is to replace the hinge that goes out in our doors... or should i have a body shop do it? and where could i find one... Thanks guys _________________ Thirdgenless |
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alloy T56 Elitist
Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Posts: 1716 Location: Vancouver, WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5474
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:07 am Post subject: |
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The upper hinge is welded on. But you can buy a rebuild kit from Lon at www.top-downsolutions.com They're kind of spendy. I went with the non greasable kit myself. Figured if the first time lasted 275k miles, why would I need a greasable unit. The lower hinge rebuild kit is cheap, and you can pick it up at most parts stores. |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5474
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Looks like Dan beat me to it. |
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305 302eater Member
Joined: 18 Feb 2007 Posts: 604 Location: port orchard
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 9:46 am Post subject: |
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cool thanks guys... mine isn't to bad yet but i will do it now... Thanks again _________________ Thirdgenless |
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Al Hasse Member
Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:10 am Post subject: |
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Doing the same thing with the 89 shortly. I have the pins to put in, just need to recruit some help to hold the door straight while I loosen the upper hinge (if needed). Using the floor jack to lift the rear edge of the door. _________________ 92 Camaro
89 Camaro
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5304 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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an engine hoist helps.
i installed the greasable hinge kit on the drivers door of the six a few years ago. one piece of advice, do not get the "deluxe kit" that comes with the grease gun, the grease gun is a piece of garbage, it broke before i put one tube of grease through it. i have the second hinge kit still, i am planing on installing it on the drivers door of the GTA, then i was going to buy two no greasable ones for the passenger doors of both cars.
another piece of advice, using the dremel tool for this SUCKED, find a better tool. it is too small for a grinder to fit, but there must be something.... _________________ 86' firebird (Junked in 2015). 88' GTA (sold in 2020).
aaron_sK wrote: | Hell, Tony drove his GTA to Cows a few years back with the pickup coil that came out in pieces. |
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blue89 Member
Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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How did you pound the pins out? Mine are kinda stuck in there and I can't seem to get leverage on it. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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blue89 wrote: | How did you pound the pins out? Mine are kinda stuck in there and I can't seem to get leverage on it. |
Bigger hammer and a punch. |
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blue89 Member
Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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that has to be the fastest response to a post I've ever seen! Way to stay on it! lol. |
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alloy T56 Elitist
Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Posts: 1716 Location: Vancouver, WA
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Posted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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chevymad wrote: | Looks like Dan beat me to it. |
I may be old........but I'm quick
I used a carbide burr on my long die grinder to knock the heads of the top rivets off. Took about 15 second per rivet to grind them down this way. Had to be really careful not to take off too much. |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5304 Location: Portland, Oregon.
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:05 am Post subject: |
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i spent about 4 hours with the dremel. i went through like three bits.... |
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alloy T56 Elitist
Joined: 25 Jan 2004 Posts: 1716 Location: Vancouver, WA
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 7:59 am Post subject: |
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Xophertony wrote: | i spent about 4 hours with the dremel. i went through like three bits.... |
But at least you got the job done and didn't have to pay anyone to do it.
Doing it yourself..............priceless |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5304 Location: Portland, Oregon.
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: |
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i think i might have to buy a die grinder. |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5474
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5304 Location: Portland, Oregon.
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:51 am Post subject: |
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nice. if/when i buy one it will be the most expensive tool i have ever purchased.
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wait.. .3 jaw chuck... would an electric drill be able to use the same bits? i could get a "die grinder" bit for an electric drill and acomplish the same thing right? |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5474
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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An electric drill turns about 2k rpm. A die grinder turns 20-30k. You'd be all day trying to get a drill to grind anything.
BTW the tool can be had for $59. But it doesnt come with any of the cool attachments. I bought mine on a sale for $79 then bought the flex attachment later. You can also get a right angle grinder/cutter attachment. That I dont have but wish i did. Looks like a nice panel cutter. |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5304 Location: Portland, Oregon.
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Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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cool. 20-30K rpm is nice. i think my drill needs a transmission.
thanks for the advice Brandon, i more question, where can i get this tool for 59$ ?
EDIT
without all the "16-in-one" stuff it's way cheaper. |
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Al Hasse Member
Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Did the driver's door today. $6 for the pin & bushings and $10-$15 for a spring tool. Used a floor jack to lift the trailing edge of the door, undid the upper hinge, then got the door positioned so the pin loose in the hole (really bad sag), and pulled the pin up with a set of channel-lock pliers. Looks like I have to replace the detent roller now too, it doesn't roll.
For those looking to do this, the pin & bushings are in the "HELP!" section, the ones they sell for our cars is part # 38402. That was too small for my car and I had to use the oversized kit, part # 38407. I also highly advise getting a door spring tool, makes life much easier. _________________ 92 Camaro
89 Camaro
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Al, is that kit comperable to the TDS kit? I can't imagine for that price it would be. |
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