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Redbird86

ok, so I have been thinking about this for a bit. The technology is there to insert a half a tic tac sized passive RFID into your hand or wherever place you like. Now from what I am to understand, you can use these like id tags and a little more. So, I can turn on my computer by pressing my thumb into the scanner which is essentially the same deal. The only difference is you have to actually make contact with the fingerprint scanner.

So my question would be this, do you guys think it would be possible to set up our cars so that I could use the RFID as a "starter button" to turn on my ignition? You know, wave your hand at the scanner, boom, engine starts. Completely disable the ignition and have a completely theft proof vehicle. (obviously, unless they tow it.) I am the only one that ever drives my car, so others being unable to start it wouldn't be an issue.

I guess i would have to remove the steering lock, but aside from that, I guess, the only problem would be turning it off. Maybe something could be set up that when the vehicle is in park, you wave your hand again, and it turns off?

Any ideas?

Demon · Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject:

your best bet is to take a look at the new C6 with remote start/keyless ignition/keyless entry .... or any other vehicle that has it really...

there is a small chip in the fob that allows all of it... find an aftermarket system that can work for your car and figure it out from there...

though good luck with any metal detectors when travelling, and if you ever injur yourself, any closeness to an x-ray or even mri may render it useless.

food for thought Smile

Xophertony · Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject:

I don't know if you know much about starter curcuits, but not having a key does NOT render a thirdgen starterless. I can start my car from INSIDE the cab with only a 10MM wrench, wire strippers, and a few feet of wire. i would not need the 10MM wrench if i was a thief cause i would just break plastic instead of properly removing it.

unless vats cuts fuel as well, does vats cut fuel? if it does i don't think that would be much of an issue actualy. you can bypass that from in the cab too i think. I should try this somtime....

rjmcgee · The Hammer Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 2328

I voted Me no understand Te k nol o gee Laughing

Of course I do have a test light. LMAO

Al Hasse · Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:25 pm Post subject:

I think the VATS does cut the fuel as well as the ignition. Or is the fuel pump powered from an ignition source? I had a few problems with my alarm's remote start (bad brain I think it was) where VATS would activate and I had to wait the 4 minutes, which seemed like an eternity, before the fuel pump would even prime when the key was turned.

I think your best bet would be to invest in an alarm with remote start capability. They make them now that work with the manual transmission (like mine) as well as the automatics. I get a good mile range out of mine, so it can be nice and warm in the winter months before I even get in.

BigDaddyVu · Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:27 pm Post subject:

you can simply place a mirco switch under the dash to cut power at your coil. but if there inside your car it dosen't stop them from tearing your interior up.

Redbird86 · Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject:

yes a test light. I have a multimeter actually, the difference is, the wire was in my hand, and the multimeter was all the way inside the house. poking wires into other wires just seemed to be a much quicker way of solving my problem.

As for MRI's and such I am not sure that a passive "chip" would be taken out by such a device. It isn't a pace maker. and even if it did, really the chip is only 5 bucks for an encrypted one, or .25 cents for a plain one. the only problem would be removing the last one and inserting the new one.

and for me it isn't really the anti theft portion of it that turns my crank. see? bad pun.

It is the wicked coolness factor of waving your hand at your car and that bad boy starting right up. and having someone else trying and trying and having no luck. Like watching people looking for your door handles or for a way to get in your car when you have shaved handles.

chevymad · Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:39 pm Post subject:

There's a few cars allready being released with biometrics installed. Car won't run unless its really you in the seat. No more keys. The car checks things like your pulse, body temp etc. They're even saying that it will stop drunk driving... it can tell if you're drunk and not start. Also mentioned it will do the same for tired drivers. Though they talked about just limiting power to something like 25% for tired drivers.

QwkTrip · Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:48 pm Post subject:

It seems you are just fascinated with the technology more than anything. Think about resale and whether or not you would rather do something else with your money.

Xophertony · Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:19 pm Post subject:

Redbird86 · Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:33 pm Post subject:

yes, I am fascinated with the technology. However, I have also thought about the resale. By creating a back up unit. Like in a small card or keychain, you are able to offer the new owner their own key. you can change the frequency fairly easily so your chip inside your hand no longer works on the car. And once you have installed it in one car it shouldn't be too difficult to reinstall in another vehicle.

Not to mention that it would be just as easy to make this a universal thing, opening your car doors and such.

The cost to make it shouldn't be that high. 5 bucks to put chip in your hand. Then maybe another 20 bucks for the electronics to build the sensor. unless you can get one in the store. I have a friend working on the electronic side of it. to see if it is financially feasible

iansane · Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 11:42 pm Post subject: