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LB985IROC · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:01 pm Post subject: manual conversion

how much would it run me to convert my iroc to a manual trans not which ones will wokr and such but im gettign tired of the 700r4 i keep hearing about all their issues and want to get a manual back lo this is my first auto

Xophertony · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject:

i hear ya on the clutchless woes. i miss my T5... Crying or Very sad

well, it's alot of work. you are going to need to find a complete doner car. trannsmission, master cylinder, slave cylindar, lines, pedals (including new brake pedal), and you will need to hack a hole in your tranny tunnel for the shifter. oh, and of course, a new center console plate. might want to convert to a 4th gen console while you are at it Very Happy

depending on where you get this the cost will varry. call local junkyards like foster auto parts and ask how much they would charge for all this stuff. u-pull-it will probably not have what you are looking for as all there cars come "hand-me-down" from foster autoparts allready stripped. you may also want to consider going with a T56.

PM IANSANE. he converted an auto car to a manual (T56) and so he will know all the odds and ends i have forgotten. actualy, he will probably post up here pretty quick.

rjmcgee · The Hammer Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 2328

Actually alot of us have done the auto to 5 spd swap.

Jess, Schultzy, me, Ian, and Paul is getting ready to do it. Easy way is to find somebody selling off an entire 5 spd set up. I bought mine from Aaron ( Demon) on here and he included every nut and bolt needed to get it going. That made it easy.

Xophertony · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject:

yeah, thats sorta what i meant by "complete donor car". somone selling the full setup, or a junkyard with a full car. so you can get everything.

i had no idea so many had done it. i wanna go T56. like ian. i don't think the T5 can handle the massive 176 horses i am putting down Laughing

might rip it to shreds Rolling Eyes

rjmcgee · The Hammer Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 2328

miamivice · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:35 pm Post subject:

this might be a stupid question, so if it is, IM SORRY!
can the tranny be taken out from under the car, w/o taking the engine out? or does it all have to come out from the top?

Al Hasse · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:38 pm Post subject:

Did it this weekend, put it back in today with the engine on the mounts. I really helps though when you have a lift and a transmission jack like the shop I used had.

iansane · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:44 pm Post subject:

That stick shift swap was the single best thing I've ever done to any car. Very Happy

I always liked driving the car before but as soon as I could shift my own gears it made everything more fun.

Tony covered a lot of it. I picked up parts from a bunch of local junkyards. Pedals I got from a 4thgen car and just cut off the gas pedal (they have all three attached together). Master cylinder came with something I bought. Actually I think I have two or three sitting around here because the stock style wouldn't work for me. Cutting the hole was pretty easy but covering it up was a pain. I never got ahold of the stock rubber boot that bolts to the trans tunnel and just used a generic one from B&M from a local parts store and just bent it to fit the contours. If you can, get the stock style boot. I don't think the 5-speed tranny xmember is the same as the auto one but if you were going to t56 I've got an xmember you can have for cheap. Smile

The other thing you'll need to look into is the speedo. Depending on what trans, you'll need to come up with a different method of telling the computer/guages how fast you're going. Torque arm should be the same, I think only the earlier cars had the reversed TQ arm. Clutch will be from whatever car you pull the trans from. Same with flywheel. The The flywheel may be a problem. Is an 85 block a 1pc rear main or 2pc?

Lining up the hole to cut for the Master Cylinder is simple. I just bolted the MC to the pedal assembly outside of the car to make sure it moved straight and then bolted the pedals into the car and they have another arm that will stick down to show where you drill the bolt holes and MC hole.

You'll spend quite a few hours on your back on the floorboard with your feet on the headrest. Smile

DyskoChris83 · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:24 pm Post subject:

I really want to do this but kinda sucks i just put in a brand new 700r so parents wouldnt be to happy if i blew all that money.

Schultzy89GTA · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:30 pm Post subject:

Twilightoptics · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:18 pm Post subject:

Schultzy89GTA · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject:

No, IIRC the TKO is rated at like 550 ft lbs. On the juice I am in the 700 ft lb neighborhood at the flywheel.

-Schultzy

Twilightoptics · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject:

Quasi-Traction · Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:18 am Post subject:

I may potentially have said "donor car", if you're intrested. Its an 84 5/sp V6 car. I think I may have a ruptured coolent passage on the motor, but I'm going to get a *caugh* certified mechanic *caugh* to look at it and see if he can make it run before I give up on it completely.

Xophertony · Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:29 am Post subject:

your said "donor car" has the wrong spline count on the tranny Tisk tisk

. if only you had an iron duke Laughing

Twilightoptics · Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:37 am Post subject:

Schultzy89GTA · Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 12:29 pm Post subject:

Jess · Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:17 pm Post subject:

I think I had about $650 into parts for my swap. Which included a new clutch kit. The VSS from my stock 700R4 worked with the T5 but I didn't think about getting the correct VSS gear and transmission gear so the speedo reads about 10% slow. Might be a little different which mechanical speedo vs. the electronic sender though, not sure.

Quasi-Traction · Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 9:44 am Post subject:

It sounds like he's debating using an aftermarket 5 or 6sp. Which means he wouldn't need my transmission anyways tony, what I meant by donor car was that he'd have all the plumbing for it (clutch master cylinder, bracket, petal setup, hydraulic lines, clutch slave cylinder, shifter) the only things he'd have to add was pressure plate, clutch, and transmission.

Speaking of Iron Dukes.........I'm debating going back to that U-pull it and snagging that 5 speed we saw. and that Carb that was on the grey 6er.