Cascade Crew

91RSVert · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:20 am Post subject:

1500 is the local price for a ls1 t56

my flywheel has tons or burnt spots, one of this is so dark is black.

:edit: found clutch. They are 340 now.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 10:59 am Post subject:

I paid $1100 freight shipped across the country and helped several others with similar purchases. If its $1500 it better have a warranty. Steel 3-4 fork and bronze shift pads.

Turn the flywheel. Don't replace it. And stop slipping your clutch :0)

91RSVert · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:13 am Post subject:

tell all the hills here to flatten out, and the slow f***s in the fastlane that take off so slow I could speedwalk faster then they move.

I slam the gears so hard Ive been asked how many times Ive ripped the shifter out, and gotten jack rabbit start tickets.

aaron_sK · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:45 am Post subject:

Sounds like you need more rear gear.

With the T56 in there you will definitely need more gear. Wink

I too paid $1100 (including shipping) for my LT1-style transmission back when those were a hot item. That price also included two shifters and a bellhousing.

Keep shopping and remember that sometimes the price of freight is less than paying the local markup.

fiveoformula · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:56 am Post subject:

I have kind of an off-topic question but do T56s "feel" pretty strong? Like I think most of us know T5s can be noisey and have quirks but does the T56 have better driveability in that sense?

aaron_sK · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:02 pm Post subject:

Personally I vastly prefer the T5 over the T56 from a drivability perspective. The T56 is too "heavy" if that makes any sense. Also the pattern seems narrower to me.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:27 pm Post subject:

It's basically a t5 with one more gear on the aux counter shaft. There is more weight spinning so when shifting at high rpm you feel a touch more resistance as the synchronized works to slow the mess down.

Feel stronger, no it feels just like a t5. Stock shifter is crap, pro 5.0 is best. Atleast any shifter with positive stick stops.

DBL_TKE · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:29 pm Post subject:

I'm not going to deny it. I much prefer the "feel" of a T-5 over a T-56. Shifting through the gears feel crisper and more positive. The T-56 cars that I've driven feel like you have to really slam the gears at high RPM to get fully into the gear.

91RSVert · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:55 pm Post subject:

Ive been thinking staying with t5 due to cost, mods, and gear ratios. I had thought the t56 was steaper first, but was wrong (unless its that one rare 93 model).

Shifter, I wouldnt keep the stock shifter even if it came with one.

Only advantage I see is getting the reluctor ring so my cruise works right.

91RSVert · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:57 pm Post subject:

aaron_sK · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:27 pm Post subject:

fiveoformula · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:29 pm Post subject:

The strength in the case is another advantage. I'm running on a wrecking yard T5 for 3 years now that hasn't given me any problem other than a slow leak. But I guess there fine unless you like to drop the clutch at 4k+ all the time.

iansane · Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:03 pm Post subject:

Probably won't come with shifter and ancillaries but I'll bet it can be had for cheap...

http://www.corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46868

91RSVert · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:28 am Post subject:

Aaron, guess I'm just not understanding you on the gearing.

Ian, link doesnt work, have to be member to see. But I think I'm just going to stay with t5 and get a rebuilt unit.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:17 am Post subject:

aaron_sK · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:05 am Post subject:

Gears can be hard to follow because the slang terms don't always make sense numerically.

"Steeper" and "lower" means numerically higher (higher RPM for same speed) while "shallower" and "higher" means numerically lower (lower RPM for same speed).

The T-56 has a shallower first gear (2.66 vs 2.76) and top gear (0.50 vs 0.63) so you can run a steeper rear gear to make up for it. I ran a 3.73 behind mine and it was barely enough. If I would have kept that car I would have gone to at least a 4.11.

On the matter of gearing vs. slipping the clutch, imagine this: Say you get your clutch all the way out at, hypothetically lets say, six miles per hour. Now lets say it takes Gramps in the El Dog in front of you ten seconds to get up to six mph. So you wait for ten seconds and then launch hard or you slip your clutch for ten seconds. Now double your rear axle ratio. This effectively halves the speed for a given RPM. Assuming Gramps accelerates linearly now you spend half the time with the clutch partially engaged reducing heat and wear.

Clear as mud? Sorry if I'm confusing you further with my convoluted explanation. Laughing

91RSVert · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:30 am Post subject:

Dewey316 · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:32 am Post subject:

Because you slip it less with the steeper gears. You don't need to ride it to get the car to move slowly.

91RSVert · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:35 am Post subject:

iansane · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 10:39 am Post subject: