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Al Hasse
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twilightoptics wrote:
IIRC on my stock 10 bolt one of the caliper lines was hard lined.


On my cast iron calipers, there were hard lines to both calipers. That axle came from a 1983 Trans Am, later years changed to one caliper having a flex line. The only thing left from that axle is the housing...

Didn't the aluminum calipers had flex lines to both?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
The tee'd line coming from the chassis also changed threads over the years, so watch out for that.


83/84 I think were the changeover years. The brake lines on my axle from a 1983 T/A had standard fittings, after that, they changed to metric.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al Hasse wrote:
83/84 I think were the changeover years. The brake lines on my axle from a 1983 T/A had standard fittings, after that, they changed to metric.


It;s not quite as simple as that. The line on my '85 was different than the line on the axle I got from Mike ('88 ) and the lines you gave me were different still. I think I had to order a line for an '88 IROC to get the right one but I don't recall specifically.

It's a mess, I know. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The stock line from my '84 was a direct fit to the '98 Z28 3-channel axle lines.

PBR calipers IIRC do have a rubber lines on both sides, no hardline.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2012 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
aaron_sK wrote:
For a parts reference for brakes and whatnot just tell them you have an '86 IROC or Trans Am with rear disks. However, you will not find parts for the axle itself on the shelf anywhere. That stuff comes from junkyards or Australia.


91camaro_rs wrote:
I just need to know what car its from so i can lookup brake rotors pads and brake cables


Shocked


My stores computer says i can get pads and rotors for it


and i found these

http://www.classicindustries.com/camaro/parts/fra8602.html

whats the difference between a borg warner HD or non HD axle

also i have been reading about proportion valves and they changed in 89 i think, the threads are different, so which prop valve do i need the older style or newer style, TGO was confusing because it said for a rear end thats older you need the older valve, but it wont screw in and nobody had a solution...

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said, you can get brake components for it as it shared them with the GM axles. You will have a hard time getting any parts for the axle itself, not even the housing gasket. I could have made that part clearer. Cool

The 9-bolt is a Borg Warner axle. The lines you linked to are for a GM 10-bolt. In catalogs it is often referred to as "performance option", "G92 axle", "HD axle" or "BW axle".

Use the prop valve for Delco cast iron calipers.

I still think it would be easiest to hit up all the local yards and find an '86-'89 IROC or WS6 Trans Am and snag the prop valve and all the lines you want.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Camaro didn't get the 9-bolt until '87 though.

Trans Am could have had a 9-bolt as an option way back to '83 or '84 IIRC. But no cars had them after '89.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

are these for a 10 bolt as well??

http://thirdgenranch.com/-strse-1010/82-dsh-92-Camaro-fdsh-Firebird-rear-brake/Detail.bok

it has the 82-88 option

if i use a prop valve from a 91 would that work or no cause it would fit the threads fine but it would push more pressure to the rear cause 91 brakes are bigger, or would a aftermarket one work?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

turns out its illegal for junk yards to sell brake lines....i found a trans am with the lines and valve i needed they wouldnt let me take em
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Which yard sold you that line?
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That's a crock. The only thing they can't sell you off the top of my head is a used catalytic converter. Everything else is yard rules. I did get refused once on a valve body for an automatic but only because they wanted me to buy the whole trans instead...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alot of places won't sell fuel tanks either.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

every yard on mountain hwy wouldnt let me take em
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only yard on Mountain Highway with a G92 car that I can think of would be All Auto. Did you check the three or four out at Pick-N-Pull?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there was a couple 9 bolts at the places i went to but all of em were PBR except that one i found in the trans am
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you get away with saying they're something else? A lot of those people really don't know jack shizzle about the part that you're showing them.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok so i figured out i need a 43.6 tooth driven gear for the speed. So should i get a 43 or 44 tooth?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Round to the nearest whole number...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok cool ill order the 44 tooth one then, thanks for your help everyone i appreciate it! Cool

i finished it all up today and got it plumbed up

here is the before and after pic
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where did you end up getting the lines?
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