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charlie6178

well just for the hell of it we took the LT1 car to the track just to see what it'll do. i'm fairly impressed for a bone stock LT1!

on street tires, launching off an idle basically, and rolling into 1st, the car went 13.04 @ 107. that was with my buddy tim driving it. the fastest i went was 13.09 @ 107. theres definitally more in it! with a good set of tires, and a few "free mods" that need to be done, i'm sure we can get it into the 12.80's the way it is.

now it's time for a cam!!

83Z28BlackBetty · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:00 am Post subject:

hell yeah! Thats sweet! Once I get mine running 100% I need to track it too. I was thinking these things would run high 13's but that is great news! Congrats!

~JAKE

charlie6178 · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:12 pm Post subject:

oh no! it's EASILY a hight 12 second car. it was fun last night! skylar even took it for a pass down the track Laughing

Schultzy89GTA · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:23 pm Post subject:

Man that is impressive. I would't think a bone stock LT1 would get you that far. You made it look easy. Awesome!

I hope you have similar results Jake. Aren't the earlier Camaro's like yours lighter than the later year thirdgens?

-Schultzy

aaron_sK · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:32 pm Post subject:

I've seen guys with the LT1 fourthgen cars hit the 12's with bolt-ons, so it's not surprising to see it done in a lighter chassis especially considering he's got a chip, headers, CAI, twin-disk, ect.

The early cars are indeed lighter due to less bracing, less sound deadening, less body caulk, ect.

83Z28BlackBetty · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:07 pm Post subject:

Holy smokes! now i can't wait to take mine to the track. I hope to get similar results with mine for sure.

~JAKE

DBL_TKE · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:18 pm Post subject:

Maybe next time I can get a full real pass Laughing

Now that I know how that trans/shifter/clutch feel.

QwkTrip · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:17 pm Post subject:

Ya, that does seem above average for a stockish LT1. Nice numbers.

charlie6178 · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:17 pm Post subject:

Well let's face it, LT1's are generally known to be slow problem child engines. and behind all stereotypes there is a reality. The car weighs in at 3150lbs as it sits. I've seen bolt on LT1 4th gens in the 12's too. With 4.10's, slicks, and 4,000 rpm launches! This was a 13.0 rolling out of the hole at an idle, on street tires, feathering it through 1st gear.. Personally I think that's pretty kick ass! But to each his own. I'm pleased with it. I plan on putting it on the dyno within the next week or 2, then doing the heads and cam to see what kind of gains we see.

QwkTrip · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:20 pm Post subject:

What cam did you choose?

charlie6178 · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:33 pm Post subject:

Well I have a CC503 laying around and. I'm 90% sure I'm gonna use it, with the ported 374 heads I'm building right now. and I'll be porting the intake while I'm at it. and I've been talking to a buddy of mine who has a 67 chevy swb with an LT1 in it that had a vortech V2 kit on it that he wants to sell. So I'm mulling over the idea of a hotcam kit with the heads and a V2 at like 7-8psi.. I just don't know if I'm really in love with the idea of boost on an LT1. Especially stock bottom end!

QwkTrip · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:14 pm Post subject:

I had a Vortech on a LT1 Corvette some time ago making 12 psi. 355 with JE forged pistons. It was fun but I'll have to say it was difficult to drive at throttle on street tires. It just kept pulling harder and harder at higher engine speed and the torque curve never laid down. The only reason to shift gears was valvetrain limits. What this really means is the tires would blow off at 5000+ RPM and surprise the crap out of me. In order to stay hooked I had to lift throttle as the RPM's increased. Totally unnatural feel and unpredictable. I don't think this is an issue when running mild boost. In fact, I do remember the car being very well planted at 9 psi. But I know you're not the type to stop at 6 psi Wink

Personally, I don't think I'll ever have a centrifugal supercharger again. I eventually put the car in a field when the tires blew off and the car got too squirly to handle at such a high speed. Fault was part me, part 'Vette supension, but mostly the weird power band. It was going to happen sooner or later.

charlie6178 · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:42 pm Post subject:

See that worries me aswell. I had a powerdyne on my first LS1 car and that was even a weird power curve. We will see what I come up with. I am really running out of things to fix on the car fast! as soon as I do... Then I'll have to do something about the power! I have been driving. It daily for the last couple weeks and I am having a sick sort of love affair with the car! Everybody keeps saying "you sold your Z06 and LS1 Camaro for a mullet machine???" and all I can say is "drive it!" everybody that has driven this car has been pretty impressed with it! skylar am I right?????

QwkTrip · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:54 pm Post subject:

I had two 4th gen Camaro's in the last year. A stock SS LS1 and a Z28 with an iron 6.0L H/C/I. I know newer is touted as better, but I have to say I think my 3rd gen is a nicer car. The 4th gen was mostly plastic, squeaked, rattled, and reminded me why the Camaro went out of production. Awesome powerplant. Really crappy car.

My 3rd gen isn't exactly top quality either but I like the interior better and at least it has real sheetmetal and the fenders don't have to be popped back into place on a weekly basis. Plus, I can actually reach the back of the engine and the whole car is much easier to work on.

You know, if people can still think a Buick T-type is cool then there's nothing uncool about a 3rd gen. The Buick interior is freaking awful!

DBL_TKE · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:57 pm Post subject:

aaron_sK · Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:06 pm Post subject:

charlie6178 · Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:28 pm Post subject:

Well I made up my mind. I'm just gonna throw the CC503 in it and leave the heads alone for now. I'm just gonna do the cam, springs, and pushrods this weekend for now.

charlie6178 · Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject:

well i might have made a trip over to EPW today and picked up a few minor pieces to help things along the way with this ol' LTjuan!

i'm going to take her through DEQ tomorrow and get a fresh set of tags on her, then tear it apart this weekend! i'm gonna do the cam, and build the heads this weekend and hopefully have the bad body running by sunday night! gonna tear it apart friday after work.

Schultzy89GTA · Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:51 pm Post subject:

Veddy nice!

Twilightoptics · Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:16 pm Post subject:

Tunage?