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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:51 am Post subject: 86 bird headlights |
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My headlights only pop up intermittently. the switch is cool, i checked it out. the motors sound fine, and pop right up when they work, and will work ten times in a row, then fail on the eleventh. What else coudl it be? i currently have a parts car, but don't even know what to grab off of it. any help is apriciated guys.
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fiveoformula Member

Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 1799 Location: OR
1988 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| It probably is the nylon bushings in the motors, mine did the same progressively getting worse until I had to manually open them EVERY time. Got the Top down solutions $25 rebuild kit for the motors and they've worked perfect ever since. |
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4417 Location: Gresham, OR
1989 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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Happened to mine finally late last year Tony. I just got the bushings from TDS, not the entire rebuild kit. There are like 3 nylon 'pucks' on each side. IIRC, one pack of 3 is $7 or something like that. I actually tried making my own but the material I used wasn't hard enough so I just paid Lon.
You can verify if this is it by taking the housing apart. I would bet that your former 'pucks' are a fine white powder instead of solid discs. Simple fix... get em coming.
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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86 popups don't work that way, the same way as later units. these have no bushing based clutch. the motor turns, they turn.
my motors do not even try to turn. this is why i don't think it's the clutches. |
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4417 Location: Gresham, OR
1989 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Ahhh ok. Must be another 87 and up deal.
Good luck.
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
1991 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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Does the '86 use the headlight control module mounted on the firewall? _________________
| Quote: | | Sometimes I actually think I'm slightly retarded in the mouth. |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
1988 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:39 am Post subject: |
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| ... i dont know. i'll investigate. |
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:32 am Post subject: |
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I got the same problem on my '86. The left side works perfectly but the right side pops only about 10% of the time. I barely have to nudge it to make it go up however which makes me believe the motor is still good.  _________________ '86 Trans Am - 5.0L TPI - LT1 cam - 700R4 - WS6
'85 Camaro Berlinetta - IROC clone
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kurfbird Member
Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 866 Location: Whidbey Island
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Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:30 pm Post subject: headlight module |
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| Xophertony wrote: | | ... i dont know. i'll investigate. |
NO that is from 87-89 use one module
and 1990-2002 use a different module _________________ kurfbird
1991 Camaro 3.1 v6
1991 Firebird 3.1 v6
1992 Formula 350 5.7
700r4 Transmissions
brucesthirdgenparts.com |
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:32 am Post subject: |
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| no module. |
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kurfbird Member
Joined: 02 Mar 2005 Posts: 866 Location: Whidbey Island
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: 86 bird |
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I ahve a 86 bird with all the relays for the headlights. LMK if youw ant the relays _________________ kurfbird
1991 Camaro 3.1 v6
1991 Firebird 3.1 v6
1992 Formula 350 5.7
700r4 Transmissions
brucesthirdgenparts.com |
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