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QwkTrip 11sec Club

Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:47 pm Post subject: Hmmmm.... something look funny to you? |
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I put the BMR K-member, A-arms, and the C4 brake conversion on and my wheel moved just a little bit..... okay a big bit. This sucks. I guess I'll be doing a lot of measuring to see where things went wrong.
By the way, it's not easy to install a set of Moroso Trick springs. I'm not looking forward to getting those installed again. 
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QwkTrip 11sec Club

Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't know, maybe I should just go with it and start grabbing my crotch when I talk to people. My pants ride low all the time anyway, but it's more from natural causes than on purpose. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Is that the K-member width, or the a-arm causing that?
Tire's on backwards, BTW.  |
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QwkTrip 11sec Club

Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't know. I'm done for tonight. I took some quick measurements earlier and K-member and A-arms looked okay. But I'm going to redo it all tomorrow night being more careful. |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, increased track width is good, right? _________________
| Quote: | | Sometimes I actually think I'm slightly retarded in the mouth. |
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QwkTrip 11sec Club

Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| It's a Pontiac wide track. |
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aaron_sK Member
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Xophertony Rodeo Queen

Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 5306 Location: Portland, Oregon.
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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That is how you build excitment..
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IROCDave Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 957 Location: Snohomish WA
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| Put some mud flaps on it and call it good. |
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QwkTrip 11sec Club

Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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It's had mud flaps behind the front tires for 19 years. Every last picture I have ever posted has mud flaps. It's not by accident that there is not a single rock chip on the side of the car. And it's not by accident that you never noticed.
Look again....
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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QwkTrip 11sec Club

Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Did a little experiment tonight. It's the brake kit. This is stock V6 spindles and brakes with all the BMR stuff still on the car.
Were there different spindles offered on 3rd gens or something? Is there a big brake kit that won't move the wheel out at all?
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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Al Hasse Member

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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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I've ordered wheel bearings from NAPA before and found out that there were two sizes available. IIRC, one was "heavy duty" and not a real common part. Maybe Travis is right about 1LE spindles being different and requires this larger "heavy duty" bearing. Maybe that spindle has a slightly larger diameter at the base and your bearing won't slide all the way on??? _________________ 92 Camaro
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QwkTrip 11sec Club

Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| I doubt it. Twilightoptics had this on his car and he's a very competent mechanic. If the bearing didn't fit he would have noticed for sure. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Jon, did you buy these as bolt-on spindles from Paul, or did you just buy the brake components?
Notice the front tire of Paul's car in this shot:
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Al Hasse Member

Joined: 19 Nov 2005 Posts: 4379 Location: Bremerton, WA
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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| QwkTrip wrote: | | I doubt it. Twilightoptics had this on his car and he's a very competent mechanic. If the bearing didn't fit he would have noticed for sure. |
Agreed. I forgot you got them from Paul.
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QwkTrip 11sec Club

Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:05 pm Post subject: |
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Spindle and all. Just mounted it to my struts and A-arms. I did install new rotors from SSBC. They are same depth as the original rotor that came with Paul's setup.
I'm a bit perplexed at the moment. I guess I'll be doing a lot of measuring this weekend. |
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blue89 Member

Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| The wheel should only be pushed out the thickness of the rotor. I would still bank on the cross member not being built right. |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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Very odd indeed. Too many variables to guess right now. It all functioned on Paul's car, I wonder what went wonky when installed on yours. _________________
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