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jchaussee Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton
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Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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So far 184 on the heads at pacific machine in renton. That is dor cleaninf , leak and pressure tests, surfacing, checking springs and whayever else they do on min headjob. Not going to have any mavhine work done to heads. I may hasket match them.myself if I can get a convensus on if worth or not. I havent talked to them.about block work yet. Will tommorow. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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Not even a valve grind and seals!!!? I wouldnt put that crap on a fresh bottomend. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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jchaussee Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 6:35 am Post subject: |
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valve seals are being done. I will inquire about grind |
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MrMike98 Member
Joined: 18 May 2010 Posts: 231 Location: Bremerton
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:12 am Post subject: |
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MUST do seals AND valve job.....................minimum for heads
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jchaussee Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Called them. Seals and valve job 160 . Reasonable? High? Low? |
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MrMike98 Member
Joined: 18 May 2010 Posts: 231 Location: Bremerton
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 11:57 am Post subject: |
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160 for both heads? 80 ea thats 20 per hole-10 per valve-sounds good to me.
but call a few shops and see if thats the going rate..
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gasket matching-can never hurt...however-if the ONLY thing you did was gasket match-u probably wont notch any difference.
now understand that ever little thing will add up to nice gains-if u do enough things both small(gasket match-cc heads-balance- and large(cam)
have fun-pay attention to detail-ask questions-wait-u know this one...lol...
Mike |
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jchaussee Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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So all my 8 exhaust srals and fivr intake seals leaked. So thatll be done. Siad springs stiff so pretty much will handle any cam I put in it. Then they said 70 to set spring hieght? |
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MrMike98 Member
Joined: 18 May 2010 Posts: 231 Location: Bremerton
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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jchaussee wrote: | So all my 8 exhaust srals and fivr intake seals leaked. So thatll be done. Siad springs stiff so pretty much will handle any cam I put in it. Then they said 70 to set spring hieght? |
Note: there is more to springs than just "stiff"--coil bind for higher lift cams needs to be considered
thats part of "attention to detail" and should be done because now all springs will have the same height and pressure.....which will leed to a smoother running engine---not required-but is usually always done....
see how these little things add up-and ur just starting---
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RSFreak The other "John"
Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 6:48 pm Post subject: |
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Is a valve grind the same as a 3 angle valve job? I've heard that this procedure is worth a noticeable gain. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Price sounds low.
Springs are matched to the CAM period. Too stiff = wiped out cam lobes. Too soft = valve float. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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jchaussee Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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No. not a three angle job. And I guess what he,meant was knowing whatvi want to do, I should be able tobfind I cam I want that will go well with my springs. I may do some mild porting myself. So after they grind the valves ill get heads and dobsome work before they install seals and valves and springs. I will be into the work around 350, which may be too mich for these heads but atvleast ibwill know they are in good shape. |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5474
1987 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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So is this $184 + $160 + $70 to do these heads? Might as well get new vortecs. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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chevymad wrote: | So is this $184 + $160 + $70 to do these heads? Might as well get new vortecs. |
Yeah, seems high.
Last heads I had done at Bud's in Lakewood for the sixer. $11 per valve for the grind, $60 for the mill on both, plus a few bucks to buy and install stem seals 'cause I'm too lazy to do it myself. Mag got thrown in.
I agree with figuring out cam before doing springs. |
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jchaussee Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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I have been looking at rebuild kits online. Summit has thier kit which seems to come with all but rods for about 212. So pistins bearinhs, gasketds. Seems to be a decent deal. Has anybody used. ? |
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jchaussee Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Ya. I should have called around but they down hill and I can pay in payments. I sm hounh to try and get them down on block work. And I wont have them.install seals or.springs,untill after I fo a bit on them |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Get back on a computer... _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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RSFreak The other "John"
Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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Twilightoptics wrote: | Get back on a computer... |
True, you are much easier to understand when you are typing on an actual keyboard! |
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Alphius Peanut
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 2429 Location: Grand Mound
1984 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:50 am Post subject: |
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I paid about 300 even for new valves, springs, seals, a 3-angle grind and all other etc. on my junky iron heads about 7 years ago. That was a good deal, the machinist is a family friend.
If I recall correctly, don't you actually have some pretty nice aftermarket iron heads? Are those what you are having the work done to? _________________ 84 Camaro Z28 - LS1/T56
85 Silverado - Low and Slow |
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Quasi-Traction "I have petals"
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 3873 Location: stumptown
1986 Chevrolet Camaro Berlinetta
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Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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I think I was $725 out the door at Paul's old shop for the Vortec heads. $400 for the heads (bought them from stock they had), Surfaced the heads, cut the guides down, milled off the rocker studs, put in my springs, Studs and Guideplates.
Keep in mind the actual physical lift stock SBC heads can handle before they risk smacking into the valve guides or pulling rocker studs is about .475" lift. But I've heard of it happening on heads that had less lift than that. |
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jchaussee Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2010 Posts: 1318 Location: renton
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Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Yes gabe. Those are ones I am having done. I am thinking aboit.doing some mild porting.myself on them. |
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