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BluFbdy Member
Joined: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 915 Location: Port Orchard WA
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:19 am Post subject: So am i just not doing this right?.... |
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Paul youre gonna love this lol
.......so about those roller rockers...... I adjusted the valves with the motor running warm, loosened each until it clacked around, tightened it until it stopped, set my allen, backed the nut against the allen then tightened both at the same time....ive read 1/4 turn, from what ive seen no more than 1/2 turn is advised for RR, problem is i cant turn it 1/4 turn, am i just being to gentle with these things?
I ask this because today i had it running fine, valves all adjusted and arms tight, i gave it a good punch onto the freeway and failed to shift at a decent rpm apparently (no tach still) and then it started clacking again.... So should i do this with the motor fully warmed up? I feel absolutely retarded right now because its only like 2 of them thats giving me hell. Luke has me paranoid because according to some people i have a overtorquing issue but with that in the back of my head i didnt want to just crank on these things like im trying to break them lol i know theyre not supposed to move after being set, and if the allen is in the right spot it shooooouuullld just bite down on the stud right? My fear is if i crank on it i dont want it to screw with the valve setting, but the allen should stop it from going too far right? Along with provide tension on the nut to prevent it from backing out of course
Moral of this story, im brain fried, STILL low on sleep, and on too much caffiene to organize my thoughts and questions, if you can decipher this and help i would totally appreciate it _________________ If you expect a kick to the balls and get a slap to the face its still a victory
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91RSVert Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 2736 Location: AR
1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:47 am Post subject: |
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Same problem I had with mine. After the 6th try, I took them off.
Atleast you got yours out the garage. I couldnt even make mine get out to the street. _________________ 2008 GMC Z71
1991 Camaro RS Vert
1972 Jimmy 4x4
20ft Longhorn Car Hauler
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BluFbdy Member
Joined: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 915 Location: Port Orchard WA
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:04 am Post subject: |
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It was doing fine then I got stupid and backed one off evidently by being.too hard on it _________________ If you expect a kick to the balls and get a slap to the face its still a victory
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:41 am Post subject: |
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Lol ill find my write up about it. You dont bring the allen in tight. Turn the hex the quarter turn. Back it off an 1/8 or so. Bring the allen in. Then tighten the 1/8 back up.
Polylocks are amazing if you do it right. Its absolutely rediculous to adjust them on a running engine. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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Alphius Peanut
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 2429 Location: Grand Mound
1984 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:43 am Post subject: |
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I didn't have a problem with mine.
I did them like Paul said, with hydraulic lifters, turn the nut until there is no play left, then go a quarter turn more, then tighten the polylock against the stud, then turn the nut about an eighth of a turn more to snug the polylock.
Mine never came loose in a couple thousand miles even with bouncing off of the 6200 RPM rev limit a few times. _________________ 84 Camaro Z28 - LS1/T56
85 Silverado - Low and Slow |
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BluFbdy Member
Joined: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 915 Location: Port Orchard WA
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 8:58 am Post subject: |
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I read your write up, evindently a lack of sleep can really do you in because the way I interpreted it was that you et to 0, tighten the allen against the nut, like Allen goes right nut goes left then do 1/4 turn.... So apparently that answers the question, Yup did it wrong lol now when I sinch down the nut the proper way is there going to be a good amount of resistance? Basically I wanna know if when I back off the allen I can just crank on it to be sure its snug and not going anywhere because to be honest the thought crossed my mind once or twice to loctite the damn things lol _________________ If you expect a kick to the balls and get a slap to the face its still a victory
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91RSVert Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 2736 Location: AR
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:27 am Post subject: |
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blue loctite did not hold mine down. |
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BluFbdy Member
Joined: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 915 Location: Port Orchard WA
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 10:44 am Post subject: |
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Good cuz I've got red definitely gonna adjust them properly and avoid loctite lol _________________ If you expect a kick to the balls and get a slap to the face its still a victory
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Dewey316 The Lama
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 11:55 am Post subject: |
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I've got 100k miles on my polylocks, never had to redo them. Follow Paul's instructions, you'll be good. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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DO NOT PUT LOC-TITE ON YOUR ROCKER NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jebus.
Yes there should be resistance and it should get good and snug. If you're veins are popping in your arm you're about 10 times too much force. If you over tighten they will break. Maybe not today, they'll be stressed and you'll be buying another package cause you just need one or two that you broke.
We're only talking a pressure of like 20-30 ftlbs. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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BluFbdy Member
Joined: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 915 Location: Port Orchard WA
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Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Double _________________ If you expect a kick to the balls and get a slap to the face its still a victory
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BluFbdy Member
Joined: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 915 Location: Port Orchard WA
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:31 am Post subject: |
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No loctite here Paul, it was a joke lol I went thru then today and tightened them up and its much better, only thing I can do to see if I did it right lol I have found that injector noise, tapping rockers and minor exhaust leaks can all be confused for eachother while driving, I found the loose arms and decided to tighten up my header flanges which reduced quite a bit of the confusion _________________ If you expect a kick to the balls and get a slap to the face its still a victory
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