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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:43 am    Post subject: got headers installed Reply with quote

Got them installed yesterday. Went fairly easy. I also took car of my clogged cat while I was at it. Cost me 20 to have all welded up. That included having new/used double tips welded on. For now my exhaust is welded as one from front to back. We couldn't find a 2 1/2 3 bolt flange so welded headers strait to y pipe. I swear but I could be trippin, but it seems to run cooler now because of no clogged cat. Though I am sure my under Hood temps are a lot higher. Burnt into on wire so far, but I figures it would happen. I still need tovhet new plugs and wires. But the biggest improvement is my exhaust leak is gone. It had a high end tick sound and nowbit purrs like a tiger.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You've got to have 90deg boots and secure them really well away from headers.

Headers have alot more surface area to dissapate the heat. Cheap wires wont last either.

Nor will MSD wires.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What wires do you recommend and I do have the 90 degree boots right now but my wires are old and have touched the exhaust a few times. And they are mismatched so figured now us a good time.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Accell 9002C these are a ceramic boot-these will take the heat-but u still need to keep them from touching headers..
down side=$$$
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy moly. Cash is right. What's the next step or two down.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have had terrible luck with Accell wires.

I use Taylor build-your-own on all the good cars and love 'em.

A well-built wire clamp setup is more important than expensive wires IMO. Don't just zip-tie everything together.

If your exhaust shop couldn't find 3-bolt flanges you should have kept driving. Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taylor wins.

Summit is a taylor wire with a slightly inferior boot, but I ran em for a long time and they worked great.

Just buy a crimping tool and make your length good for routing and keep it away from the pipes and you're good to go.

Think the summit v8 with external coil HEI type terminals 90deg was like $25... Prob 30-35 now.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
I have had terrible luck with Accell wires.

I use Taylor build-your-own on all the good cars and love 'em.

A well-built wire clamp setup is more important than expensive wires IMO. Don't just zip-tie everything together.

If your exhaust shop couldn't find 3-bolt flanges you should have kept driving. Razz


You can zip tie it together too. It's not as pretty, but if you do, use fig 8 zip ties. We have them at work and they are AWESOME for plug wires.

I agree, an exhaust shop that couldn't find a 3 bolt flange? But $20 is damn cheap. I would have charged you more than that.

Good thing they are cheap headers.... and good luck if you have to replace a gasket LOL

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done the figure-8 thing with zipties chaining them all together. It works but it makes me feel like an idiot. Laughing

I really like the Taylor clamp kits. I usually buy two kits and make it look nice.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He had bigger flanges. Wasn't exhaust should per se. All around mechanic shop. But ya for 20 dollars including the pipe and new tips, I coundnt say no. And beauty of everything being welded, only gaskets I have to change are the header gaskets and they are easy. He also said if I wanted he would cut off and redo at collectors width flanges. I just didn't want to drive open headers all the way home
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya. Right now I have several zipties. The PO installed non matching plugs and wires so some are way long as it is. I figure it will get me by for a few weeks
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love zipties (zap straps in canunck-enese Laughing ). I used them on the 305 and with the head of the zip tie turned down it didn't look bad at all! And kept them all separated well.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taylor cut to fit wires, a good loom for routing and insulators over the boots (insulators are necessary with my headers).


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks real nice al. May be way I go. So far plug wires fine. It is my loom of wires that goes to starter that now has me wotried
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remote solenoid solves that problem. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which is.?? Tell me more. Inform me. Because it is quote a problem cause main battery wire and all alt wires are within that loom.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dislike the GM factory solenoid and prefer to run them up on the fender. But that's just me. The wiring can be routed so it does not burn on the headers with the factory solenoid.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So do you just disconnect it from starter?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaron_sK wrote:
Remote solenoid solves that problem. Wink


Can't with a gear reduction though. The gear reduction creates a magnetic field which keeps the motor energized and it wont shut off.

Just a FYI.




That's why I have a nice mustang solenoid sitting in my tool box that was only hooked up once LOL.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I'll be damned, Paul. I think the 3800S2 is a gear reduction starter. Maybe I should test this before I lay out the wiring harness! Laughing

jchaussee wrote:
So do you just disconnect it from starter?


No, buy a Ford solenoid and wire around the stocker.
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