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iansane Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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QwkTrip wrote: | I don't know when and I don't know where, but I do have one immature act of stupidity in mind and it requires roll stop. |
I thought the same thing and had it installed on my car for 5 or so years. Never used it once. It was the most expensive brake line T fitting I ever bought. |
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91RSVert Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 2736 Location: AR
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:07 am Post subject: |
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So how do you fix the LS1 rod issue?
Since I went to disc brakes, I think I should have upgraded mine. I did fix the prop valve. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:50 am Post subject: |
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What LS1 rod issue? ![Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) |
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91RSVert Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 6:54 am Post subject: |
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QT posted about 5/8 the way down the front page, the LS1 has same threads, but the rod is different. |
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Dewey316 The Lama
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Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:07 am Post subject: |
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If you really want to do it right, get dual masters with a balance bar, and ditch the power assist.
But in real seriousness, I think the 4thgen master 3rdgen booster. I am pretty sure it was Al who did a really good write up on the switch.
When you go with the new master, ditch the prop-valve, and run full pressure to the fronts, and put an adjustable valve in the rear lines and then adjust to where you want your bias at. |
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blue89 Member
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Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 3482 Location: Bellingham/Eugene
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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I know Al and I have the 4th master and wilwood to the rear. Who else does? By far the best thing you can do for a brake upgrade and cheap! Well, cheap as long as you can flare your own brake line. |
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aaron_sK Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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blue89 wrote: | I know Al and I have the 4th master and wilwood to the rear. Who else does? |
I have that exact setup. It stops the car when we push it in and out of the shop, so winning combination then? ![LMAO](images/smiles/icon_roflmao.gif) |
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Al Hasse Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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I tried two different 4th gen master cylinders. Other than the leaky one I got from e-Bay, the only issue I had was the thread depth of the port to the rear line - the fitting was too shallow and its shoulder bottomed on the master cylinder before it seated in the port. I forget offhand which of the two it was, but I'm inclined to believe it was the e=Bay special, which was early 4th gen. The one I have now I bought new at NAPA is for a 2002 Camaro SS. _________________ 92 Camaro
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DBL_TKE Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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I been obsessing with tryin to get rid of the massive booster/master that our cars come with stock. How do people relocate them? And I think I've seen some BMW's with no visable booster in the engine bay. _________________ Richmond 3.73 posi| 36/24 sway bars | SLP LM2 | Koni's | Ground Control 800/200 | Y2K wheels | Dyno Don headers & Y-pipe | airfoil | BBK underdrive pulleys | Raised strut mounts | Extended ball joints | LCARB'S
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Some ABS systems use an electric booster built into their system. |
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iansane Member
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Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5740 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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DBL_TKE wrote: | I been obsessing with tryin to get rid of the massive booster/master that our cars come with stock. How do people relocate them? And I think I've seen some BMW's with no visable booster in the engine bay. |
A lot of bmws run hydroboost.
blue89 wrote: | I know Al and I have the 4th master and wilwood to the rear. Who else does? |
Been running my bird that way for at least six years. ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) _________________
Quote: | Sometimes I actually think I'm slightly retarded in the mouth. |
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QwkTrip 11sec Club
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Let's do this again!
I don't like how my brakes are behaving. I want to trash the dual bore 3rd gen master and get a straight bore 1" master cylinder designed for front/rear disk brakes. What is the bore specs of a LS1 master cylinder? |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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All fourthgens had a 1" bore.
V6 and V8 were the same as long as you had discs.
Thirdgen master is hot garbage. Throw in dumpster immediately! |
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Alphius Peanut
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Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 2429 Location: Grand Mound
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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When I swapped on a 4thgen master, it greatly improved brake feel on my car. Of course, my original master was 30 years old so... ![Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) _________________ 84 Camaro Z28 - LS1/T56
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QwkTrip 11sec Club
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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What about the push rod with LS1 master cylinder? According to Baer the clearance should be set to 0.005 inch. If there is more clearance then the brake pedal will have excess travel before responding. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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Not an issue. I forget which rod I used, I think thirdgen. Either way it was nice and responsive with factory parts. |
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Alphius Peanut
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 12:31 am Post subject: |
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I used the thirdgen rod. Worked fine for me. _________________ 84 Camaro Z28 - LS1/T56
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