Cascade Crew

fiveoformula · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:25 am Post subject: Carb & emissions

Well I seem to have the charging problem fixed on this '87 Bird im working on, the next project is getting it thru emissions. It has a new CC carb, (305 LG4) changed plugs and wires, cap & rotor looked fairly new when I pulled them, changed oil and filter.
Results on the first try;
HC- 450 (220 limit)
C0- 10% (1% limit)

I tried setting the timing retarded another 4ish degrees with no effect. Any thoughts on what I should try next? I know next to nothing about carbs, I know the choke doesn't work and the air pump is also disconnected right now.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:58 am Post subject:

Choke and air pump wont do a damn thing for emissions when you test.

As always, get the car HOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Carb uses a O2 as well.

I'd retard the timing about ten degrees, drill a 5/16" hole infront of the cat, and add some methanol race fuel. About 1 part per 5 gallons.

Then limp it over and pass.

Oregon emissions sucks. Do they still drive it up and down from 25mph?

turbo_jimi · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:09 pm Post subject:

87 bird? Register in WA. It's exempt up here. Smile

RSFreak · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:27 pm Post subject:

fiveoformula · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:38 pm Post subject:

fiveoformula · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:45 pm Post subject:

turbo_jimi · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:03 pm Post subject:

Twilightoptics · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 1:06 pm Post subject:

Never had a problem with co2. Bring idle to 100 below max for the test.

fiveoformula · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:06 pm Post subject:

Oh yeah, forgot to mention idle is set at about 1K rpm

RSFreak · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:45 pm Post subject:

DBL_TKE · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:51 pm Post subject:

Dewey316 · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:08 pm Post subject:

Multiple addresses. You can have your registered address and also have a mailing address, so you can get your mail and such at one address but the address used for the registration and to determine if DEQ is required is different. You do though have to change your address on your license with DMV to match, so again, you end up with 2 addresses on your license. It is easier to do it in state, I am not sure how you go about living in one state and registering a car in another state.

fiveoformula · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:29 pm Post subject:

Can you use a PO box?

Twilightoptics · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:39 pm Post subject:

Only for your mailing address, not residence where the car is located.

Al Hasse · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:55 pm Post subject:

BluFbdy · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:49 pm Post subject:

I used to trick AZ emissions with rubbing alchohol in the tank, half tank with 3 LARGE bottles, put it in a mile before the teat, shake the tank up and test, always passed with under half allowable, first time I failed with double hc, be sure to fill the tank right away though and don't beat on it for a bit so the alcohol works its way out

Probably not the best method but I dropped alot on a new cat, intake cleaning new egr etc etc and tried the crap from the parts stores with no luck, the rubbing alcohol trick came from my dads friend who was a mechanic, used to charge people to guarentee a passed emissions test, good repeating business lol

Twilightoptics · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:52 pm Post subject:

That's why I like race grade methanol. It's designed to be burned in a piston engine. Rubbing alcohol, not so much.

BluFbdy · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:58 pm Post subject:

Well yeah I guess you can do it the right way lol I go for cheap and effective, although that tends to bite you later, guess I'm lucky?

aaron_sK · Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:45 pm Post subject:

I have never had an issue using Iso-Heet (isopropyl "rubbing" alcohol) to get cars past emissions. You just run the tank down to damn near empty so you don't have to buy very much (one small bottle does it), don't have to get very far while running on the alcohol (first stop after the test is always the gas station) and you can add it right around the corner from the test station.

Twilightoptics · Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:33 am Post subject:

Iso Heet is made for engines : O)

Race grade methanol per volume is way cheaper.

1 gallon of methanol is about 6.50$ last time I bought it.

Iso heet is what, a buck a 8oz bottle?

That's $16 a gallon!