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iansane
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Twilightoptics wrote:
Variable resistor fuel pump relays have been out since the 80's. They are unreliable, and the slightest bit of corrosion or bad connection and suddenly you're lean.

Bad idea.


Variable resistor relays aren't what I'm thinking of, that's not going to run higher than input voltage, is it? 14.5v in, 18v out?
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You already bought the stuff. Just run what you got and see how it works. Not sure what you did, but I had my Racetronix harness built ready to accept their voltage booster if I need it.

People are selling slightly used injectors on LS1tech all the time in the range of 60 - 80 lbs.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once you start getting into the higher lb'ers they get fewer and farther between. That's where I got these little guys. Very Happy I'm keeping my eye out for larger all the time though. Cheap, of course. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see it all the time. I'll keep my eyes peeled for you. Tall or short style? Mostly I see talls.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

title was a little misleading. thought it was a different green that youvwould say mmmm too. my bad. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QwkTrip wrote:
I see it all the time. I'll keep my eyes peeled for you. Tall or short style? Mostly I see talls.


Talls, I'm still rocking the LS6 intake. Very Happy Thanks buddy!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found some 103# but I don't think you're that cool yet. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I found some 103# but I don't think you're that cool yet. Wink



There's an angry idle!

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At some point do they start using 2 sets of injectors? A smaller set for idle and up to a certain level then kick in a second set?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Something else thats "boost referenced" remember your intake valve springs will be weaker by what ever psi you run X the area of the valve.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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At some point do they start using 2 sets of injectors? A smaller set for idle and up to a certain level then kick in a second set?


I'm not sure about other ECUs but MegaSquirt can control fueling down to microsecond increments so has no problem at all idling an engine with gigantic injectors.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alphius wrote:
chevymad wrote:
At some point do they start using 2 sets of injectors? A smaller set for idle and up to a certain level then kick in a second set?


I'm not sure about other ECUs but MegaSquirt can control fueling down to microsecond increments so has no problem at all idling an engine with gigantic injectors.


Unless the injector isnt that quick.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

60# fresh to market...

http://ls1tech.com/forums/parts-classifieds/1494638-siemens-deka-60lb-80lb-injectors.html

http://ls1tech.com/forums/parts-classifieds/1494333-60-injectors.html
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chevymad wrote:
Something else thats "boost referenced" remember your intake valve springs will be weaker by what ever psi you run X the area of the valve.


Guess it should also be mentioned that the effective fuel rail pressure also decreases the same amount without a rising rate regulator. I still dont see why you need #60 injectors.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Next piece of the puzzle... Very Happy It's fricken 4" thick!
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you say ice machine?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully I don't lose too much efficiency with it being so thick but I know for sure it'll fit between the frame rails!
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QwkTrip wrote:
60# fresh to market...

http://ls1tech.com/forums/parts-classifieds/1494638-siemens-deka-60lb-80lb-injectors.html


So...I bought these 60s... Laughing And I got that wastegate from Zac. Very Happy


Need a BOV and some tubing and that's it. With these 60s I think I'll be maxing out the next weak link. Turbo? Headgasket? rods? Who knows! I guess I should start shopping for a replacement motor to swap in case something goes down. Obviously I'll be upp'ing the displacement if that happens. 6.0 here I come.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those Siemens Deka's?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup yup
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