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iansane Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5740 Location: Bothell
1991 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:43 am Post subject: Longtubes & t56/crossmember? |
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I got a suggestion to post it over her since I posted it like four times over at TGO. My car's pretty low and I was looking for all the clearence I can get. I'd like to make a crossmember for the t56 I have with "hums" notched out for longtube pipe to sit up in but (1) I can't weld for shizzle (2)I'm not very good at all out fabrication (3)I suck at welding.
Anyone have any suggestions, measurements, helpful hints? Someone at TGO suggested a jig made from my spohn t56 crossmember but I've never made a jig before...
Don't know if those will work, if not go here http://photobucket.com/albums/v521/iansane/ _________________
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Dewey316 The Lama
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 9:47 am Post subject: |
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Cheezx has done exactly this. I'll msg him today, and ask him to reply to this for you. |
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CheezX Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 90
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Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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Here's what I was building and selling before. I haven't made one for a while but I think I still have the setup to make another one. If you need one done we could work something out. Or just copy the style if you want to make your own.
The one in the picture is for a 700R4. I've got one on my own car which is a 400 T56 also.
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iansane Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5740 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:12 am Post subject: |
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Sweet. And that holds up to abuse? At least abuse from a hard driven street car? I beat the crap out of my car. You can still make those? Where are you located? What do you think you'd want for another one? Lot's of questions. _________________
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Dewey316 The Lama
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 4:16 am Post subject: |
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iansane wrote: | Sweet. And that holds up to abuse? |
You should see him drive. |
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4415 Location: Gresham, OR
1989 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 9:01 am Post subject: |
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hehe fairly safe to assume that if it passed Mikey's testing that it will hold up to abuse.
Crazy SOB!
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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It is a bit disheartening to be in a caravan of thirdgens, turn left at an intersection and see birdie headlights facing you in your own lane! |
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4415 Location: Gresham, OR
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Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, but in an odd bit of irony, it is oddly heartening to be traveling in a caravan of thirdgens and watch one rather abrubptly drift through eight lane intersections at 30*F and T-Tops off of course.
:wipes proud tear from eye smiley:
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CheezX Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 90
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:09 am Post subject: |
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In my own defence, I think there was a bit of gravel on the road which I didn't spot. Somebody's gotta do it, right? Nah, it's just fun! Look at the crew video.
iansane, I've found the dimensions for it. I'll have to talk to my buddy (z28redline) to see if he still has the jig and wants to do it. Yes, it holds up to abuse, but it only fits well on a lowered car. At stock height the torque arm hits it, which will cause problems. On my car with 2.5" exhaust the T56 scrapes the ground first.
Also, I've never done calculations on it for strength. This was kind of a "Spohn Style" design where if it looks strong enough and didn't break it's good enough. If I were going to sell another one I'll make sure it'll last forever with repeated drag launches on slicks while at the same time removing unneeded material to make it as light as possible.
So I can do that it just depends how much time you're willing to wait. It would cost about $75 and that includes powdercoating in any color. |
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Camaro350Z28 Member
Joined: 06 Mar 2004 Posts: 237
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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hmm im going to have longtubes and a t56 in my 85... what would makin a couple? hehe _________________ 1985 Z28. Don't know what im doing stupid 4th gen broke me.
1997 Z28 PCMforLess tune, K&N CAI, trickflow elbow, 160 thermostat, edelbrock shorty headers, Flowmaster 3", 18" cragars.
Best 1/4 - 13.8 @ 101.98 60' 2.27 |
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iansane Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5740 Location: Bothell
1991 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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CheezX wrote: | In my own defence, I think there was a bit of gravel on the road which I didn't spot. Somebody's gotta do it, right? Nah, it's just fun! Look at the crew video.
iansane, I've found the dimensions for it. I'll have to talk to my buddy (z28redline) to see if he still has the jig and wants to do it. Yes, it holds up to abuse, but it only fits well on a lowered car. At stock height the torque arm hits it, which will cause problems. On my car with 2.5" exhaust the T56 scrapes the ground first.
Also, I've never done calculations on it for strength. This was kind of a "Spohn Style" design where if it looks strong enough and didn't break it's good enough. If I were going to sell another one I'll make sure it'll last forever with repeated drag launches on slicks while at the same time removing unneeded material to make it as light as possible.
So I can do that it just depends how much time you're willing to wait. It would cost about $75 and that includes powdercoating in any color. |
Well that works out perfectly. I'm on sportlines right now so the car scrapes the xmember all the time. I don't have slicks but I do launch the car all the time as well as hard shift it.
Yeah, if you can see if the jig is still around I'll paypal you some money to get one started for me. Would the xmember fit 3" pipes? _________________
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CheezX Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 90
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Posted: Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:45 am Post subject: |
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No need to paypal now, only when it's ready to ship. I've got an idea for a crossmember that will have less deflection. I'll need at least a month though cause it'll have some laser cut pieces. |
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Gibby85 Member
Joined: 04 Feb 2004 Posts: 169 Location: Olympia, WA
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Where's this video with Cheesey difting across traffic!!! _________________
www.cardomain.com/id/gibbys85 |
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4415 Location: Gresham, OR
1989 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:14 am Post subject: |
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No video - both incidents happened at gatherings... one of those things you have to show up to.
-Schultzy _________________ Red Sled: 89 GTA, 383, TKO, N2O
12.73 @ 109.39, 1.793 60 \ 11.794 @ 121.16, 1.62 60 (old combo) |
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Dewey316 The Lama
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 7295 Location: Bringing the tech
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:30 am Post subject: |
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whoever is behind cheezy at the dyno WILL have the video camera running in their car. |
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CheezX Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 90
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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Got a recent video, no drifting though. Just playing around in the parking lot, not that interesting. More like a practice session.
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vega_guy_76 Member
Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 79 Location: St Helens, OR
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Wow, 32MB. It took me 5 minutes 5 seconds to download that on a Cable connection. Dial-up beware. On the good side, That's a very nice looking and sounding car.
Charlie |
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)
Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4415 Location: Gresham, OR
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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New engine sounds good Mikey.
-Schultzy _________________ Red Sled: 89 GTA, 383, TKO, N2O
12.73 @ 109.39, 1.793 60 \ 11.794 @ 121.16, 1.62 60 (old combo) |
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iansane Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5740 Location: Bothell
1991 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Whoa, sweet sounding bird there. Makes me miss my old 87 formy. _________________
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CheezX Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the compliments guys. I still think it sounds the same as the 305 did, just a bit deeper.
iansane, pictures of your car make me want 91-92 bumpers and gfx! |
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