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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:15 pm Post subject: Part 3: Lets get (back) down to business... |
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Must be a circus in town, what is this...
-Mirrors:
You guys are gonna hate it, but I sanded and primed those mirrors:
Three of the four nuts froze at the junkyard, causing the studs to spin out of the mirror housing. I bought some stainless steel bolts and dipped them in JB Weld, then threaded them into the mirrors. After the epoxy dried I cut the heads off of the bolts and rethreaded the tips.
They are totally getting a flat black topcoat and going on the car:
-Frame bracing:
I don't know when exactly the changeover was for GM to add frame bracing to these cars. I know it started on the higher models and went down. For instance Bondo Bucket was an '85 Z28 and had full bracing, Banana was made in the same model year but is a base model and has no bracing. The car I robbed the braces out of at the junkyard was an '87 base model and it had full bracing.
Regardless, the '85 crossmember has holes drilled but not tapped. The frame also has the proper holes in it, and even has the backing plates welded in, but not tapped. Easy fix though:
Shiny! (Or rather matte and not shiny in this case )
-Springs:
Keep falling out of my cars... geez:
Stock '85 SC spring next to Z28 spring cut half or 3/4 coil (note difference in diameter):
A quick video of how to pop springs out safe and cheap using a good chain. If you haven't pulled springs before you can't really appreciate the sudden release of kinetic energy:
http://s151.photobucket.com/albums/s131/aaron_sK/85SC/project_1/?action=view¤t=camaro_project_2084.mp4
Note my highly technical spring removal tool, which is totally not just a pickle fork slid inside of a steel pipe.
All out:
-Motor mounts:
Have copper washers on the nut-side for some reason...?
-Engine bay paint:
Scraped and sanded:
Degreased and masked:
Primed:
Topcoat:
I went for gloss white instead of machine gray this time. I liked the gray, but it was a little too green for me. I didn't want to use it in the passenger compartment, and I wanted to use the same color there as under the hood, so it all ended up white.
I'm displeased with the final topcoat. I had a nozzle go south on me and spit droplets of paint everywhere. I blended it in with the last remaining can as best I could. I will have to wait for it to dry to tell if it needs a scuff and another topcoat or if it's okay. |
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Schultzy89GTA M.R.A. (11sec Club)

Joined: 08 Jan 2004 Posts: 4417 Location: Gresham, OR
1989 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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ohhhh Nice progress! Looking good
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:41 am Post subject: |
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That white engine bay will look great with the black outside.  _________________ '86 Trans Am - 5.0L TPI - LT1 cam - 700R4 - WS6
'85 Camaro Berlinetta - IROC clone
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
1987 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya.. those white seams will glow in the dark! |
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flea Member

Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 1246 Location: Raymond WA
1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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It'll look like a Tron-mobile  _________________ Killing mailboxes since 2009 |
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QwkTrip 11sec Club

Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
1989 Pontiac Firebird
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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You going all white on the car?
I know that's a border line "Here's your sign" award question, but I will risk it instead of wondering. |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
1991 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Not to be nitpicky, but as soon as you align the front end you're going to find some bananananer left. Why didn't you pull the strut mounts? _________________
| Quote: | | Sometimes I actually think I'm slightly retarded in the mouth. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| chevymad wrote: | | Ya.. those white seams will glow in the dark! |
Gonna paint the fenders black all the way out to the lip, and paint down the sides of the hood. Easy money.
| QwkTrip wrote: | | You going all white on the car? |
Gloss white interior/engine bay, gloss black exterior, flat black trim/mirrors/headlight buckets and maybe even the hood.
| iansane wrote: | Not to be nitpicky, but as soon as you align the front end you're going to find some bananananer left. |
Oh I find yellow every time I do anything to this car.
| iansane wrote: | | Why didn't you pull the strut mounts? |
Because they're going bye-bye.  |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
1991 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | Because they're going bye-bye.  |
I presumed they would be but they don't have the same footprint as any of the adjustable mounts out there so you'll be repainting that section when it comes time to align.  |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| iansane wrote: | so you'll be repainting that section when it comes time to align.  |
Oh almost certainly. Like I said, I keep finding yellow everywhere I go. Good thing I'm not an aesthetically picky man. |
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | Good thing I'm not an aesthetically picky man. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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My unaesthetic build continues...
I asked her for water...
she brought me gasoline...
Fuel tank hijinks:
Things continue to fall out of the car. This tank came out no trouble at all. Must be because I lack an engineering background...
The filler tube tank I got from Mike way back when had a bent flapper that wouldn't close, and the threads on the end of the neck were a bit wonky. My stupid ass figures "no problem!" so I reach for the chain cutter and whack the neck off, intending to swap it with the neck off of the old tank. Then I suddenly remembered why that's a really stupid idea:
So I sat there looking at the two tanks and it occurred to me that the tank from the old GTA was actually kinda dented and beat from being kicked around the floor of the several shops I've had since I got it. It was actually crushed down on one side from me setting something on it at some point.
It also occurred to me that the tank I had just pulled was in nice shape except for having a filler neck that was bent down by someone trying to swap the pump without dropping the axle far enough (thank god they didn't cut a door).
After looking at it a bit I fixed myself a quick filler neck fixin' tool out of some exhaust pipe that Paul had left at my shop:
Perfect alignment:
Gaskets:
The gasket that comes with the Racetronix kit (right, ignore the cut) is a super cheapo crappy one. It had swelled up while installed in the other tank and would not go back in. The GM unit (left) is lined with a wire and has nice alignment tabs. They want almost $17 for it though!!!
Tank vent:
While the tank was out I cut the vent line with my peanut cutter and rerouted it up:
With the tank vent rerouted I removed the hard vent line from under the car, then ran a 1/4" Wix filter above the filler neck:
...and routed the line out through a hole in the gas door liner:
Axle:
The axle prep and installation was a fairly boring affair so I didn't take pictures, save for this one of the new suspension goodies thanks to Paul and Mike:
I will let them settle before I decide, but I think I may need to take another quarter to half coil off of Paul's springs. I am not running any rear stereo or upholstery and this thing sits high:
More paint:
I apparently cannot go an entire day without painting something, so I pulled the strut mounts to make Ian happy and touched up a few other spots:
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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No stereo for me either. Just a battery. Which you'll have at some point. Plus get fuel in it, and the engine in it, and everything assembled and driven before you decide. Even weight in the front will bring it down some. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Indeed. I'm in no hurry.
I was shocked at how much the car came up when I gutted the interior. I did not weigh all that came out (went in with all the other dump run crap) but I would guess several hundred pounds. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)

Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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And subframe connectors with dual bracing. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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RSFreak The other "John"

Joined: 23 Jan 2004 Posts: 2946 Location: Renton
1989 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Twilightoptics wrote: | | And subframe connectors with dual bracing. |
Have you been tapped to build those?!  |
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5476
1987 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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Aarons a carpenter right? Why did I suddenly have an image of 2x4 subframe connectors....  |
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iansane Member

Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5742 Location: Bothell
1991 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | I apparently cannot go an entire day without painting something, so I pulled the strut mounts to make Ian happy and touched up a few other spots: |
Muuuuuch better.
Some nice progress. That filter location is a much cleaner job that I did! _________________
| Quote: | | Sometimes I actually think I'm slightly retarded in the mouth. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:52 am Post subject: |
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| RSFreak wrote: | Have you been tapped to build those?!  |
Hey now! How about we let Paul finish welding the stuff I need to get this damn thing running! Then we can worry about the frame.
| chevymad wrote: | Aarons a carpenter right? Why did I suddenly have an image of 2x4 subframe connectors....  |
It would be in keeping with the Chevrolet tradition of running a wood frame under the coachwork long after Ford went to steel.
| iansane wrote: | | That filter location is a much cleaner job that I did! |
I was planning on running it up front but then I thought "why?" I think that this may also eliminate some of the fuel smell you get while idling at a stop with the front-mounted vent like I had in my IROC. |
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Alphius Peanut

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 2429 Location: Grand Mound
1984 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:38 am Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | It would be in keeping with the Chevrolet tradition of running a wood frame under the coachwork long after Ford went to steel.  |
You know, the Corvette to this day still uses a balsa wood floor that's sandwiched between two layers of composite.  _________________ 84 Camaro Z28 - LS1/T56
85 Silverado - Low and Slow |
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