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pros and cons of a 383 stroker?

 
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:04 am    Post subject: pros and cons of a 383 stroker? Reply with quote

So I'm at a crossroad, I have just been offered a 383 stroker for my tranny plus cash, what are the goods and bads of it assuming its done right? I have no specs on it currently, would the tpi system be up to par for a 383???

The only reason I'm selling the tranny is to pay for my motor but if I get a motor and cash I can sell my current one if it will work with what I need it to do I'm just tempted to go 383 but I'm assuming it would be ideal for it to be a roller correct??

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would do it just to get rid of that silly LT1-spec T-56.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stock TPI intake won't support a 383.

Is your engine built nicely and a good piece? If yes, then be very careful before trading it for an unknown engine. Answer this question: What kind of cash value are you paying for the 383, and what is the cost of a new 383 rotating assembly that you can put in your own engine? I suspect you might find you're better off getting 100% cash for the trans and using the money how you want and when you want.

The other thing I'm wondering is did the guy offer to buy your trans outright if you didn't want to trade? I would be wary of someone who has enough money to have a 383 laying around that they aren't going to use but can't pay cash for your trans. It could be a sign that they can't sell the engine because of some problem and are trying to trade it out.

I guess the other thing is did you really plan for a 383 in the first place or are you getting stars in your eyes? Just be aware that being stary-eyed is an expensive habit and you need the bank account to match. There are many other expenses that go along with putting a 383 in your car.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

QwkTrip wrote:
Stock TPI intake won't support a 383.

Is your engine built nicely and a good piece? If yes, then be very careful before trading it for an unknown engine. Answer this question: What kind of cash value are you paying for the 383, and what is the cost of a new 383 rotating assembly that you can put in your own engine? I suspect you might find you're better off getting 100% cash for the trans and using the money how you want and when you want.

The other thing I'm wondering is did the guy offer to buy your trans outright if you didn't want to trade? I would be wary of someone who has enough money to have a 383 laying around that they aren't going to use but can't pay cash for your trans. It could be a sign that they can't sell the engine because of some problem and are trying to trade it out.

I guess the other thing is did you really plan for a 383 in the first place or are you getting stars in your eyes? Just be aware that being stary-eyed is an expensive habit and you need the bank account to match. There are many other expenses that go along with putting a 383 in your car.


That was my first issue, they're not cheap so why would he want to trade a stroked motor for a transmission? The t56 is going either way, I need some machine wok done on my motor because the crank it eating the number 2 bearing on the stand....good thing I had it done for me while I was in fort Jackson..... in any case the quick idea was to get rid of the t56, port the factory tpi even though I now know it will choke it, toss it on and in and find an hsr soon as a quick get it done then sell my setup off with a very clear warning of it needing machining.

I've been trying to sell the t56 for about a week now, TGO is no help because everyone wants it shipped but freight is expensive, and its now on CL but I have only gotten that offer for the motor plus cash and a few good old CL idiots

Dunno just an idea

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would let some time go by and see what comes from your advertising. I have a feeling you would just as soon take cash if somebody would buy the trans?

Thirdgen.org is a very stagnant pool of buyers. Few people have any money to their name. I sold about $17K of stuff since the beginning of the year and almost all of it was sold on LS1tech.com.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cash would be my first choice, I can spread cash to finish the car, motor body and paint, a motor only goes so far I forgot about ls1tech altogether, my biggest issue is freight shipping, the few people interested stopped cold I was quoted over a grand to ship the transfer to michigan
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was quoted over a grand to ship the transfer to michigan


The hell? It's been awhile but I seem to remember paying around $150 to have a T-56 shipped cross-country to a residential address via FedEx.

I'll second LS1tech as being a better site to sell stuff, but be wary of people on there. The moderation staff is a joke and they do nothing about known ripoff artists on there.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BluFbdy wrote:
I was quoted over a grand to ship the transfer to michigan


The hell? It's been awhile but I seem to remember paying around $150 to have a T-56 shipped cross-country to a residential address via FedEx.

I'll second LS1tech as being a better site to sell stuff, but be wary of people on there. The moderation staff is a joke and they do nothing about known ripoff artists on there.


Yeah I called ups and got an 1800 quote lol I have no clue how freight works I know I paid like 250 to get my original t56 from Louisiana to Phoenix

I've had a few run ins with the rip off artists on there that's why I never went back lol

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UPS four day ground is about $140 for a 150 lb. package.

Free pro tip: Go to Target or something and buy a plastic tub. Throw the transmission in the tub with a bunch of foam and tape it shut. Then ship it from work if they'll let you. Also, see if your buyer can accept it at work. Business address is almost always cheaper.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's an excellent idea! Lol
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Residential to residential is expensive. The costs go waaaaaay down if you can ship to or from a business with a freight account. You need to find somebody with a freight account (either on your end or the buyer's end).

It's hard to get ripped off when you are the seller because you are in full control of everything until you ship the part. Most people get ripped off when buying.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QwkTrip wrote:
It's hard to get ripped off when you are the seller


Not so, Jon. There are frequent problems with people fraudulently filing claims with PayPal for items that they received, and since PayPal almost always sides with the buyer they can raid your account for an item you sent out in good faith.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the circumstances of those scams? I'll guarantee I can give you a counter move to avoid it or overcome it. Scammers use trust to beat you. If you have no trust you can hardly be beat.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What are the circumstances of those scams? I'll guarantee I can give you a counter move to avoid it or overcome it. Scammers use trust to beat you. If you have no trust you can hardly be beat.


1) Buy crap and wait till someone sends you something with no verification tag on it. Claim you never received it. Get full refund. Sell item with secondary account... Profit.

2) Buy an item that you already have (but yours is in terrible shape). Wait till you receive the new one and send a picture of your old one to PayPal claiming that is what you received. Seller will of course claim they want the item returned so you ship back your crappy one and sell their nice one with your secondary account... Profit.

Remember that eBay does not allow you to list bad feedback as a seller if you are payed at the time of the sale. Which is retarded. Also remember that PayPal will almost never side with the seller. PayPal is about as crooked of an organization as there ever was. Any deal you do through them can go south quick.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scenario 1: Always purchase proof of shipment and package tracking. Put the information in PayPal the day you mail it (before it is received by buyer) and keep your receipt. I always pay for shipping using my credit card for a second proof of payment. Do not sell to PayPal users without certified address.

Scenario 2: Take a picture of what you are selling and then take a picture of yourself with the item. Post the item picture in your ad and leave it up a while after the sale. Buy insurance on items worth any kind of money and don't take back returns. Let the insurance sort it out. Send insurance the picture of you with it. Comparison of date stamps of both pictures will convince insurance and anybody else it was your item. Buyer never sees your 2nd picture.

Scenario 3: Don't use ebay. Costs too much and they don't protect seller interests well enough. PayPal will side with you if you have proper documentation. It's all about the documentation!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully he can sell locally and none of this will matter anyway.

For local sales I usually ask for a certified bank check because the payment can't be stopped by the buyer since the check is from the bank to me. I have the person come during bank hours so I can go inside my house for a few minutes, find the bank phone number on the internet, and call and verify the check is good. If it's good then the buyer can go.

One time a guy misunderstood and gave me a MoneyGram. I said I can't take it. He said he paid cash for it and he would lose his money. I took it and kept the parts for another 3 weeks until I had proof it was good when my bank could confirm the money was transferred. Believe it or not he actually gave me a good trader rating.
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