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Ryan S Member
Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Posts: 36 Location: Snohomish WA
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:06 pm Post subject: Choosing Shorty Headers for a '91 L98 |
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What is everybody running? What are you guys satisfied with performance wise, that's good quality and going to hold up? I'm willing to save and buy expensive ones, but if the cheaper ones such as hookers work fine I'd rather go with those but I'm looking for some experienced input, I don't want them to rust and be full of pinholes.
Running a 91' L98 350 with the factory dual cat option, so i'm going with shorties to make the bend to the passenger side easier, no AIR, but I need 02 sensor friendly headers
Thanks!
Ryan S
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chevymad Master B
Joined: 11 Jan 2004 Posts: 5474
1987 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Got my uncoated Hedmans used in 01 and they're still on the car. I did coat them with VHT when I first got them. While they are rusty, they arent rusted through. I did have to replace the Y pipe this year though.
The coated version should hold up better. |
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townaj Member
Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Posts: 326 Location: San Antone, TX
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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I second the Hedmans. I also painted mine well and theres not a hint of rust on them...going on a couple years now |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
1987 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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I've played with Hedman, Edelbrock, Hooker, Flowtech.
Hedman/Hooker are about a wash for the #1 spot.
#3 Flowtech
#4 Edelbrock
Absolutely hate the edelbrocks. Fitment sucks, plugs are harder to get to, everything about them compared to Hedman and Hooker is lesser. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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83Z28BlackBetty Bam-Ba-Lam
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 2083 Location: Aloha
1983 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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i got the uncoated shorty hedmans from summit for like 150. Great header for the money in my opinion.
~JAKE _________________ 1983 Z-28 5.7 LT1, T56, Headman headers, BW 9 Bolt Posi Disc, WS6 suspension
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Ryan S Member
Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Posts: 36 Location: Snohomish WA
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Alright then, sounds like I'm going with Hedman or Hooker, do they both require no modification? |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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All of them require a little "work" to get the A/C to fit. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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iansane Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5740 Location: Bothell
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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I know it's a bit different animal but I put used LT hedmans on the bird and drove ~60k with them. No issues. I can't remember who I gave them to... Gabe? John? _________________
Quote: | Sometimes I actually think I'm slightly retarded in the mouth. |
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Alphius Peanut
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 2429 Location: Grand Mound
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Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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iansane wrote: | I know it's a bit different animal but I put used LT hedmans on the bird and drove ~60k with them. No issues. I can't remember who I gave them to... Gabe? John? |
You gave them to me, and they were no go with my T5 so I gave them to another friend. _________________ 84 Camaro Z28 - LS1/T56
85 Silverado - Low and Slow |
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Whiskeychick Member
Joined: 19 Sep 2010 Posts: 225 Location: Penticton BC
1987 Pontiac GTA
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:16 am Post subject: |
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I vote Hooker, had them for 4 years no complaints. Also because they have a ball and socket flange with the y-pipe (not sure about headmans?) you can install them on the car for a bit, then pull the y-pipe off and using the soot ring cut the ball part open more. I got over 3/4" when I widened mine. Made a difference too. _________________ 1987 - Trans am GTA, hooker headers, Borla catback, Cat delete, CAI, 9.6 @ 75mph 1/8mile
1978 - Trans am 6.6/TA, Gold bird. Workin on it
2008 - Mini Cooper Clubman S, Hot Chocolate on Hot Chocolate Lounge Leather |
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iansane Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5740 Location: Bothell
1991 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Alphius wrote: | iansane wrote: | I know it's a bit different animal but I put used LT hedmans on the bird and drove ~60k with them. No issues. I can't remember who I gave them to... Gabe? John? |
You gave them to me, and they were no go with my T5 so I gave them to another friend. |
Really? What was the fit issue, the slave cylinder? |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:38 am Post subject: |
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Hedmans have gone to the ball and socket too.
Be careful with both sets, not to over tighten the bolts. I kinda don't like this setup. When I do an exhaust I cut those off and use a good thick 3 bolt flange and good gaskets. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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Alphius Peanut
Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 2429 Location: Grand Mound
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:49 am Post subject: |
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iansane wrote: | Alphius wrote: | iansane wrote: | I know it's a bit different animal but I put used LT hedmans on the bird and drove ~60k with them. No issues. I can't remember who I gave them to... Gabe? John? |
You gave them to me, and they were no go with my T5 so I gave them to another friend. |
Really? What was the fit issue, the slave cylinder? |
The collector was pointed directly at the slave cylinder, and about a half inch away... There was no getting around that. _________________ 84 Camaro Z28 - LS1/T56
85 Silverado - Low and Slow |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:12 am Post subject: |
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Long tubes are automatic/manual specific. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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iansane Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2004 Posts: 5740 Location: Bothell
1991 Pontiac Trans Am
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Twilightoptics wrote: | Long tubes are automatic/manual specific. |
Mine were on the t56, so the slave was pointed the other direction. |
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camarokid Member
Joined: 08 Jan 2011 Posts: 41 Location: Qualicum Beach
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:57 am Post subject: |
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have had my hedmans on since 2001 and they have been great, . get a set for an 85 so ya dont have to have all the AIR crap on them. the O2 bung does work but it is slightly lower then the oem position in the manifolds, i did experience a bit of an idle issue from it( atleast thats what we tracked it back to). but its not the case with all of them.
anyone running a set of 1 3/4 on there car on here? not sure of the best make for the larger size. _________________ Camaro Kid
1988 Sport coupe. black peral, Polished irocs, 383, wc t5 9 bolt, eibach sportlines ..... the list is to long
1991 Z28 1LE R7U players challenge race car 1 of 65
1969 camaro sport coupe resto project, 28,000 mi |
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Ryan S Member
Joined: 03 Apr 2011 Posts: 36 Location: Snohomish WA
1990 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks a lot for all the input guys! I'll be ordering some Hookers tomorrow night |
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fiveoformula Member
Joined: 08 Aug 2007 Posts: 1799 Location: OR
1988 Pontiac Formula
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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I have the regular black 2055 hookers on my 305, no rust, decent fitment, I still have A/C. Just recently cut the AIR tubes off, you'll want to get rid of them, makes plug access alot better. lol _________________
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91RSVert Member
Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 2736 Location: AR
1991 Chevrolet Camaro RS
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:47 am Post subject: |
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I have edelbrocks that I bought off someone on here. I can see why they got rid of them, they suck ass.
I'm trying to get myself to cough up the cash for some dyno-dons. |
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DBL_TKE Member
Joined: 28 Feb 2007 Posts: 1505 Location: Aloha, OR
1991 Chevrolet Camaro Z/28
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Posted: Fri Jul 08, 2011 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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I have the Edelbrock shorties and Y-pipe. Don't get them. They started getting surface rust within a week (while Dereks 2055's still have the black paint on them), and the collectors and y-pipe merge are a complete joke. _________________ Richmond 3.73 posi| 36/24 sway bars | SLP LM2 | Koni's | Ground Control 800/200 | Y2K wheels | Dyno Don headers & Y-pipe | airfoil | BBK underdrive pulleys | Raised strut mounts | Extended ball joints | LCARB'S
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