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		| Whiskeychick Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:47 pm    Post subject: Headliner woes? |   |  
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				| ARGGGGGGGGG.  just deleted my whole post. Grr compute...sdswify 
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 Anyone changed out their sagging headliners on here?  No surprise my headliner is sagging.... actually been doing it for a while.
 
 I know all about the scraping of the glue, etc, no worries about getting it out the the old stuff off.  But I wanted to know how you recovered it.
 Did you use OEM headliner?
 
 I have a really good deal on some suede in black, and I wanted to use that but its really thin fabric.  So I was considering putting foam behind it first but the thinest I can find is 1/2 inch, and I think thats overkill.  There is also some cotton batton which would be identical to the OEM foam thickness, but didnt know if anyone has tried a backing then the fabric?  Instead of foambacked fabrics.
 
 I am making my T-Top shades at the same time, so I kinda want to do it all so the fabric matches.
 
 I cant really see any issues so long as |I make sure everything is glued on well, so it doesnt fall down asap.  think i'm missing something?
 
 If not, I go tomorrow to give her a go.
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 1987 - Trans am GTA, hooker headers, Borla catback, Cat delete, CAI, 9.6 @ 75mph 1/8mile
 1978 - Trans am 6.6/TA, Gold bird. Workin on it
 2008 - Mini Cooper Clubman S, Hot Chocolate on Hot Chocolate Lounge Leather
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		| Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 1:51 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Get one of the ABS plastic ones. Think a few of us have gotten them from ebay. _________________
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		| Whiskeychick Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:00 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Ya I saw those, head they need alot or mods to make em fit properly? 
 And my board is in really good shape, just the fabric is pulling away.  And I dont have that kind of $$ right now, saving for dyno
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 1987 - Trans am GTA, hooker headers, Borla catback, Cat delete, CAI, 9.6 @ 75mph 1/8mile
 1978 - Trans am 6.6/TA, Gold bird. Workin on it
 2008 - Mini Cooper Clubman S, Hot Chocolate on Hot Chocolate Lounge Leather
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		| popballz Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:27 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| just make sure you geta good brand name glue especially with 2 layers. 
 my dad recovered one with the foam backed fabric and it turned out good but still came unglued.
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		| Quasi-Traction "I have petals"
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:45 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | popballz wrote: |  	  | my dad recovered one with the foam backed fabric and it turned out good but still came unglued. | 
 
 Did the same with mine, but mine's still holding 3 years later. Used 2 whole spray cans of 3M Carpet Adhesive.
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		| Whiskeychick Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:15 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| K will i just pulled it out of my car, the board itself is in perfect shape nothing broken, although I did break my a pillar clip retainer, lol So its coming to work with me on monday, but hey not so bad, got it out in 10 mins. 
 Kinda excited to fix it now, doesn`t seem like such a big job now that its sitting on the couch beside me
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 1987 - Trans am GTA, hooker headers, Borla catback, Cat delete, CAI, 9.6 @ 75mph 1/8mile
 1978 - Trans am 6.6/TA, Gold bird. Workin on it
 2008 - Mini Cooper Clubman S, Hot Chocolate on Hot Chocolate Lounge Leather
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		| QwkTrip 11sec Club
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:48 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I broke the white clip on the pillar cover too.  I saw that either Hawks or Year One sells new clips.  Can't remember which right now. 
 I looked through fabrics at a fabric store but didn't see anything suitable for headliner.  Apparently they don't carry anything like that.  Where do the upholstery shops get their supplies?
 
 I'm probably just going to hand my headliner to a shop.  They will give it back to me finished for $80.  Hardly worth the effort to do myself for that money.
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		| nonsensekid20 Member
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:59 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I've got one of the fiberglass ones in my car. T-Top. 
 The back of it went in just fine. It was the front driver side corner that messed with me. Had to make a shim and glue it in.
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		| chevymad Master B
 
 
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:01 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I tried reglueing mine several times. It always came back down. The last time the glue I tried bled through the fabric. So out it came. Put in the ABS headliner 10 years ago. It's awesome! |  | 
	
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		| Whiskeychick Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:30 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | QwkTrip wrote: |  	  | I broke the white clip on the pillar cover too.  I saw that either Hawks or Year One sells new clips.  Can't remember which right now. 
 I'm probably just going to hand my headliner to a shop.  They will give it back to me finished for $80.  Hardly worth the effort to do myself for that money.
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 The clip itself is fine, It snapped the retaining piece off the back of the actual A pillar piece lol.  50 cent piece breaks who knows trim panel
   
 80 bucks? thats it?  Hrm.  Maybe I ask around before I attack it
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 1987 - Trans am GTA, hooker headers, Borla catback, Cat delete, CAI, 9.6 @ 75mph 1/8mile
 1978 - Trans am 6.6/TA, Gold bird. Workin on it
 2008 - Mini Cooper Clubman S, Hot Chocolate on Hot Chocolate Lounge Leather
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		| popballz Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:41 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | Whiskeychick wrote: |  	  | It snapped the retaining piece off the back of the actual A pillar piece lol.  50 cent piece breaks who knows trim panel  | 
 
 
 abs chunks plus acetona in a jar will create melted abs plastic..
 
 apply it to selected areas and it will melt/glue itself right into the abs piller piece.
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 4:55 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				|  	  | popballz wrote: |  	  |  	  | Whiskeychick wrote: |  	  | It snapped the retaining piece off the back of the actual A pillar piece lol.  50 cent piece breaks who knows trim panel  | 
 
 
 abs chunks plus acetona in a jar will create melted abs plastic..
 
 apply it to selected areas and it will melt/glue itself right into the abs piller piece.
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 lol! thats awesome, would work well, and never thought about it but ill just fix it at work, bribe a bodyman lol. they break things like that all the time
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 1987 - Trans am GTA, hooker headers, Borla catback, Cat delete, CAI, 9.6 @ 75mph 1/8mile
 1978 - Trans am 6.6/TA, Gold bird. Workin on it
 2008 - Mini Cooper Clubman S, Hot Chocolate on Hot Chocolate Lounge Leather
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:21 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| check with grant on vifbody chels. i think he did some headliners when he has his 87 iroc _________________
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:26 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| Alrighty, will do. But Ill see how it goes first really doesnt look that hard, although I could eat those words
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 1987 - Trans am GTA, hooker headers, Borla catback, Cat delete, CAI, 9.6 @ 75mph 1/8mile
 1978 - Trans am 6.6/TA, Gold bird. Workin on it
 2008 - Mini Cooper Clubman S, Hot Chocolate on Hot Chocolate Lounge Leather
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		| Al Hasse Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 10:20 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I took mine out after the fiber board material started crumbling.  Haven't replaced it yet, but it will be ABS when I do  _________________
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		| 91camaro_rs Member
 
  
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				|  Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 10:23 am    Post subject: |   |  
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				| I just re did mine, it was cracked and sagging, fiberglassed it, and went to jo ann fabric and got black fabric and re covered it using permatex headliner glue to glue it to the board, turned out pretty nice _________________
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 9:11 pm    Post subject: |   |  
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				| K, headliner all done   Reused the original board cause it was in good shape
   Got some industral glue from my supplier at work, and bought some vinyl leather look material for 25 bucks.
 
 This is my final result, what ya think?
 
   
 PS still need to cut the holes for the sun visors, but other then that its done
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 1987 - Trans am GTA, hooker headers, Borla catback, Cat delete, CAI, 9.6 @ 75mph 1/8mile
 1978 - Trans am 6.6/TA, Gold bird. Workin on it
 2008 - Mini Cooper Clubman S, Hot Chocolate on Hot Chocolate Lounge Leather
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