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nonsensekid20
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 Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:54 am Post subject: Luke's going racing! |
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Luke's going racing! He'll be at Bremerton Raceway today racing.
Good luck dude! |
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nonsensekid20
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| Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Just raced a 15.8 and won! |
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Xophertony
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| Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| NICE! brackets? |
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91camaro_rs
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| Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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lol no wonder u wanted me to keep you updated...anyway i get there thinkin its test and tune....nope so i raced sportsman
first run ran a 15.769
second 15.89
third 15.90
idk why but my car got slower and slower, and when i first raced it when i did the swap in june i ran a 15.29
my best so far with the v8 is a 15.29 @ 92.85mph
i did re-route the breather into the intake so i can breathe while driving, but i think that might have had to do something with my slower times, also i used different wheels and tires, and the minimum air is now set, but i dont think that should have an affect on my time but im not sure. i need to have it tuned, and i need a shift kit 
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QwkTrip
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:38 am Post subject: |
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| You better stop racing or soon a Prius is going to smoke you... er.... zap you. |
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flea
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 6:35 am Post subject: |
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They say the 2010 prius is putting down 134 HP
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aaron_sK
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| flea wrote: | | They say the 2010 prius is putting down 134 HP |
But how much torque? Horsepower is only good for selling cars, it's the torque that wins the races! 
| 91camaro_rs wrote: | | idk why but my car got slower and slower |
What time was your last run? If you would have kept racing later into the evening, I'd bet your car would have gotten faster again. Any guesses why?
BTW, what's your 60' time? The first time I ran the IROC at Pacific I put down 15.8, and I was sideways through second gear with a 2.9 second sitxy. So much for traction (and my driving skillz).  |
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QwkTrip
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:55 am Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | But how much torque? Horsepower is only good for selling cars, it's the torque that wins the races! |
Power is what wins races. Just ask the guy in the RX7 that hands you your butt at the stop light.
Electric cars could make gobs and gobs of torque if the designer wanted, but torque and rotating speed together make power. |
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IROC-stangs
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| QwkTrip wrote: | | aaron_sK wrote: | | But how much torque? Horsepower is only good for selling cars, it's the torque that wins the races! |
Power is what wins races. Just ask the guy in the RX7 that hands you your butt at the stop light.
Electric cars could make gobs and gobs of torque if the designer wanted, but torque and rotating speed together make power. |
I wanna hear the story of the race... |
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Twilightoptics
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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Lmao. Unless heavily modified no rx7 is going to win from a stoplight on a thirdgen v8.
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91camaro_rs
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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i have two priuses.......lol what do you do in those anyway cause, you can only give it "gas" when the gas motor is on otherwise you gotta give it "volts" or something hahaha
anyway ill post up pics of my drag slips later
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QwkTrip
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Twilightoptics wrote: | | Lmao. Unless heavily modified no rx7 is going to win from a stoplight on a thirdgen v8. |
Alright, let it be a heavily modified RX7, then. It was an example to help people understand why you don't need a lot of torque to make power. |
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nonsensekid20
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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Chyea man! I need to keep people informed! hahah
We'll have to take my car down there when it's broken in. There's about 8 miles on the engine right now. hahaha |
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aaron_sK
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| QwkTrip wrote: | | Power is what wins races. |
I dunno. I gotta believe that Carroll Shelby probably knew what he was talking about. Besides, horsepower is just a mathematical extension of torque. And if horsepower was the be-all and end-all, then we would all be driving Supras. But for some strange reason, we're not.
| IROC-stangs wrote: | | I wanna hear the story of the race... |
"...where the Ford's and the Lincoln's were settin' the pace,
that story is true I'm here to say,
'cause I was drivin' that Model-A"
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RSFreak
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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"Superstock Dodge is windin' out in low
But my fuel injected Stingray's really startin' to go
To get the traction I'm ridin' the clutch
My pressure plate's burnin' that machine's too much
Pedal's to the floor hear the dual quads drink
And now the four-thirteen's lead is startin' to shrink
He's hauled with Ram Induction but it's understood
I got a fuel injected engine sittin' under my hood!"
Adam Carolla onced said you could become a master mechanic simply by listening to the Beach Boys greatest hits!
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QwkTrip
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| aaron_sK wrote: | | I dunno. I gotta believe that Carroll Shelby probably knew what he was talking about. Besides, horsepower is just a mathematical extension of torque. And if horsepower was the be-all and end-all, then we would all be driving Supras. But for some strange reason, we're not. |
Oh, you talked to Carroll Shelby about this? Why didn't you say so in the first place!  Sorry, I just couldn't resist.
HP vs. Torque is a widely misunderstood concept at car forums. I see huge arguments about it all the time. Bottom line: Torque is important and engine speed is equally important. Power wraps it all up in one tidy package. I think the reason why there is so much focus on torque is because most street engines operate in the same RPM range. That allows us to drop speed out of the discussion and make the right decision almost 100% of the time. But if you were to try to compare, for example, a high torque diesel and a high revving gas engine then you wouldn't be able to make sense of things without considering engine speed. As long as you can hold traction, the engine you want is the one that makes the most power most the time when you're blasting down the 1/4 mile track.
This topic gets seriously out of control at the truck forums. The diesel guys say they make more torque and there is no way a gas engine can out tow them up a hill. The gas guys say they have more HP so they could out accelerate up the hill. They're both right to a degree. The diesel guys make more low end torque so they make more HP when the trucks start to move and the engines are revving up. At some point the gas engine gets in a power band where it makes more power (less torque) and it will begin to out pull the torque happy diesel. But that can't last forever because the tranny does have to shift gears if you want to keep accelerating. The gear shift puts the gas engine down low again where it makes less power than the diesel, and the process repeats itself over again. Same concept applies here: The engine that makes the most power most the time will win. |
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nonsensekid20
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| Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| This thread got wayyyyy off topic. But thanks for the HP vs. Torque information! hahahaha |
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Schultzy89GTA
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| Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| nonsensekid20 wrote: | | This thread got wayyyyy off topic. But thanks for the HP vs. Torque information! hahahaha |
Again, welcome to the Crew
-Schultzy |
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QwkTrip
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| Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Oh, this isn't bad at all. We kept it to just 2 topics this time. And Aaron hasn't even made a picture post yet. |
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91camaro_rs
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| Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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ok so im gonna post up my drag time excel sheet i made, it will have the v6 times on it as well
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