Cascade Crew

['92 camaro boss]

So I got up around 5, sat down played some 360. enjoying seeing the sun rise for once. So at around 8 get a phone call from my neighbor asking me to go check out something, his phone cut out all i heard was cops, dog.

So I head on over there, and sure enough, 3 cops on the porch, looking at something, I pull up, they give me the usual "who are you, what are you doing here." after I explained who I was, I get the full story. Their dog got out, chased some kids (they were pudgy they needed the exercise). Well as the cop came, he was leaving a card on the door cause the only person at home was passed out.

I guess as soon as he turned around, the dog was up the lawn, barking and charging, so he pulled out his pistol and fired 2 rounds, one was a dead hit to the mouth, judging on how the other bullet looked, it maybe hit flesh but nothing more.

So they had about 5 cops searching the area around here looking for the dog, they lost his blood trail and were about to give up the search, they asked me to get in my car, and sure enough, the dog was 2 houses behind where we were all at.

He's cut pretty good, teeth are still laying on the porch. I'm just trying to figure out what their planing on doing with him. Isn't it the cop's responsibility for thing's like this since in the dogs defense the cop was on his territory? I know my neighbor is all upset about it, and that's what he's saying better happen, but in all honesty I really don't know if i see that happening.

[IROC-stangs]

wow thats really sad, I hope the dog pulls through though.

[iansane]

So wait, dog got away?

Dog chased kids, I presume kids parents call cops, cops show up, dog shows up, cop shoots dog, dog runs away with a face full of bullet and blood?

[TheodoreLogan]Whoa[/TheodoreLogan]

[Xophertony]

not that i am "for" killing animals, but as soon as a dog leaves it's owners property and chases children it is well within any citizens rights to put that dog down. had the cop witnessed the chase off property he would have drawn down and fired in defense of the children or self, and been well within his rights.

a police officer on someones property uninvited (4th amendment violation?) who is attacked by the home owners dog is a little more legally questionable. i don't think it's morally questionable however. I think it's a righteous shoot.

also, if a dog is acting like that someone else is going to shoot it eventually.

[91RSVert]

This is what pepper spray/mase is for.

[flea]

I don't think its a fourth amendment case. any one may come onto a persons property to knock on a door, unless its posted to stay off the property altogether, otherwise the doorbell would be on the street. If an officer comes to the door and knocks, is then attacked by an unrestrained dog, the officer can shoot. (what, was there no taser or pepper spray?) There are, after all leash laws, and dogs are recognized as lethal weapons.

Besides the fourth amendment is about unlawful search and seizure, not about walking up a driveway with the intend of knocking on a door.

[Xophertony]

[QwkTrip]

I'd just trust the police officer's judgement. The guy deals with crap all the time and not much is going to shake his nerves. He had to make a instant decision and if he chose to shoot then he had to shoot.

You have to understand that when a dog decides to attack that is what it will do unless you can stop it in it's tracks. I know I'm sure as hell not going to risk personal injury trying to "persuade" an animal to not attack me. I'd shoot it too.

[flea]

[IROCDave]

This is not what I was expecting from the title of the post, my "perfect morning" would be alot different. I would be woken up by my wife ...never mind.


If the dog ran off the property and chased kids, then ran at a police officer it should be put down.
Dog's are pets, nothing more. A human life is worth more than a dogs. I had part of my ear shredded by a german sheppard when I was 10 and have freinds that had there 3 YO attacked and permenatly disfigured by a dog. There are a handfull of breeds that are really protective and as they get older will attack anyone they feel isnt part of the family. I dont understand why people own these types of dogs.

I say this even though my sister had a rottweiler that I helped her train and I loved the dog. As it got older it got more protective of it's yard, bit a couple of her kids freinds, then took a chunk out of a neighbor that went into the yard to get a ball. It had to be put down and it was the right thing to do.

JMHO.

[aaron_sK]

[Quasi-Traction]

Its too bad about this happening, but the cop acted correctly in shooting the dog, since it seemed to be a serious threat to his safety and the safety of the kids around.

Tony, why was John Brunell there at CES?

['92 camaro boss]

The thing that i don't understand is Kid+dog running, dog is faster than kids, if he wanted to get him, he would have, their bus stop's aways from their house. I know the dog well, i don't dispute that the officer acted correct, i do think less lethal would of been a better choice, he just jumped the gun, no pun intended.

The dog is going to be fine tho, missing some teeth, cut pretty bad, but live-able. I don't know right now if their paying for it or he is, but the point of the post was mostly vent. crazy way to start out after a long night.

[iansane]

So basically horrible dog owner?

['92 camaro boss]

Shoot, I really don't know what to say to that one ian, i don't think he is what so ever, it's just the dog is one of those, scare the sh** outta you but once he's up close, he's just gona sniff you and leave you be.

I understand and honestly side with the cop, got a call, dog chasing kids, dog suprises you running up the lawn, he went with what he felt right, I would do the same.

only thing that doesn't add up is how the kids didn't get bit. but tomorrow i'll give him a call and see what the end result is, they must not see him as too much of a danger, cause once the dog was back home they left him there with the wife. They were talking about sending an animal control truck to the house to take the dog to the vet.

I'll post tomorrow if anyone's interested and let you all know what happened.

F.Y.I one thing after re-reading everything, forgot to mention, it's a Black lab.

[RSFreak]

Even if the dog is on the owner's property the officer has a right to use deadly force to protect him/her self. If the officer is responding to a call, he has a legal right and a responsibility to be on the property. This is why dogs, particularly ones that could do harm to a person, should be kept locked up and not allowed to roam free. The owners will probably get a fine. I know from experience. I've had animal control at my house a few times (back in the day) when my pit bull kept escaping under our fence.

[Xophertony]