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fiveoformula

Just put my Moates adapter in, now the engine light is flickering and it idles at like 1500rpm. I tried the chip in both ways... Don't know what I could have done. Anyone run into this?

aaron_sK · Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:15 pm Post subject:

Chip wipes if it goes in the wrong way, so flipping it does nothing. Gotta reburn it and put it in correctly.

Ask me how I know this. Embarassed

fiveoformula · Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:17 pm Post subject:

Its the stock chip. I don't even know how to burn one yet... Crap

aaron_sK · Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:18 pm Post subject:

I'm forgetting you're on TBI. With the ZIF chips on the G1, going in backwards craps them up. Not sure if that is true in your setup.

fiveoformula · Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:20 pm Post subject:

Man I hope not. I don't have any bins or anything..

Al Hasse · Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:05 pm Post subject:

You can burn the chip up putting it in the wrong way. I've got one that has a hot spot in it center from doing this, fortunately it wasn't the stock chip, and fortunately it still works.

Silly question, did you install the adapter with the four open pins on the correct end??

Twilightoptics · Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:54 am Post subject:

I've never had a chip go bad putting it in the wrong way.

Have you guys just heard this, or actually verified with experiance?

Make sure the chip is oriented the same way it was when you took it out, and on the same pins.

aaron_sK · Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:41 am Post subject:

Al Hasse · Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:45 am Post subject:

91camaro_rs · Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:31 am Post subject:

sorry for thread jack, but mike and i were trying to tune my chip with DOS and diacom, and we drove my car a little and data logged it and we went to save it and it saved it as a .gdf instead of a .bin and we couldnt open the file on C.A.T.S. anyone know what might be the verdict

DBL_TKE · Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:15 am Post subject:

Al Hasse · Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:34 am Post subject:

There should be a notch on one end. That is the end with pin 1. Look at it with the notch to the left, pin 1 is on the bottom left Cool

If not notched, the chip should have a mark or dot on one corner that corresponds to pin 1. Circuit boards are marked similar, either a heavy line on the end with pin 1 or a dot in the corner for pin 1.

fiveoformula · Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:53 am Post subject:

Well Im pretty sure the chip was in backwards when the SES was flashing because I turned it around and the SES is solid. The chip doesn't actually smell or look burnt up, but we did attempt to burn a new one
Skyler and I were really shooting in the dark on burning the chip, tried it, and put in the aftermarket chip, and still solid SES, high idle etc.

I just checked we put the new chip in right where the dot should be, but could we have put it in the burner backwards?

aaron_sK · Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 4:05 pm Post subject:

What burner are you using? The Moates Burn1 that I had had a nice picture on the unit itself showing you how the chip went.

The problem that I had a few years ago was that when the chip goes into the G1 ZIF socket, it goes in backwards relative to the burner. I.E. on the burner the arrow points towards the ZIF lever, and on the ECM the arrow points away from the lever.

Dewey316 · Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:55 pm Post subject:

Did you stack the bin file, or set the starting bit stuff? With the larger chips, at least on my car, the actual 4k bin, is in the 2nd of set of 4k blocks on the 32k chips. All i do, is stack the 4k bin 8 times (in tuner-pro), then burn the 32k bin to the chip.

The other way you would have to do it, is to modify the starting offset to work properly with a 4k bin.

(although, my equipment and such is like 6 or 7 years old, it may be very different now.)

--John

fiveoformula · Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:26 pm Post subject:

At the risk of sounding like an idiot... What do I put in for the checksum?

Dewey316 · Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:51 pm Post subject:

tunerpro should calculate the checksum for you.

fiveoformula · Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 11:56 pm Post subject:

Oh okay, it says 4AC3
Does it come up with the prom and mask ID aswell? I know the mask is the $61 but the prom ID says 443.

Dewey316 · Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:05 am Post subject:

those shouldn't change. The checksum is calculated by adding up the bianary bits of the bin, and then converted to a 8bit number. Not something you are going to do yourself.

If you getting the SES flashing fast, it isn't reading something for some reason. My first guess, is you aren't burning the chip with the proper offset/starting point, or it isn't seated correctly.

What is the bin size that are you trying to burn, and what is your the offset set to for the burner? That would be the place I would start looking.

fiveoformula · Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:14 am Post subject:

It is 16KB, I cant find where it says the offset? And I got the light to quit flickering with this new chip in, but it stays on solid.