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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:00 pm Post subject: Diesel smoke, anyone? |
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Got a wild hare and traded my old big red Ford truck:
for a bigger, redder... umm... Forder truck:
Can you tell I like old ford trucks?
The new beast is an '85 F-250. 107 or 207K on the odo, but the engine and trans were rebuilt 66K ago (have the receipt).
It has a 6.9L diesel (gutless, but faster and better mileage than the 302 ), and a C6 with a two-speed US Gear overdrive unit. It's got the Dana50 scissor front axle, but it's a front leaf truck so an SAS swap is much easier than on the coil-sprung F-150.
I got 14mpg around town with a hi-rise canopy on it. Very curious to see what it will get without so much wind resistance and weight in the back.
More to the point, I've been shopping diesel kits for the IDI Harvester engine. Gonna try that first, and if it's still not enough balls then I have the perfect platform for a 'Stroke swap. ![Very Happy](images/smiles/icon_biggrin.gif) |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt that thing cares about windresistance.. or whether you have a house being towed behind it.. You'll still get 14. Does it have a turbo allready? If not, get one. And you forgot louder, that thing probably clatters to beat hell! lol |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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Loud for sure.
No turbo, needs one desperately. |
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chevymad Master B
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rjmcgee The Hammer
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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Awesome!!
I had an 89 that I blew the 7.3 up in, swapped that out with a 6.9. That thing was a beast. Have fun. |
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QwkTrip 11sec Club
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Joined: 17 Feb 2004 Posts: 3942 Location: Peoria, IL
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Run your diesel at the engine speed where you make peak torque and the mileage will improve. The Gear Vendor overdrive is a really cool device, but lower speed is not better with a diesel.
My 7.3L PowerStroke makes peak torque somewhere around 1800 - 1900 rpm. I can get 22 mpg highway if I peg the engine right in that zone (64 mph) and just leave it alone. Go to 2000 rpm or more and the mileage drops to 19 mpg highway. Mine is a 2WD with 6-speed manual, but I have seen 4WD owners get the same mileage with a custom tune. |
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QwkTrip 11sec Club
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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By the way, welcome to the Cascade Crew Ford diesel club. It's almost as big as the unofficial Jeep club!
I've found www.fordtrucks.com to be a good forum for Superduty owners. Maybe it's a good site for older trucks too. |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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QwkTrip wrote: | I've found www.fordtrucks.com to be a good forum for Superduty owners. Maybe it's a good site for older trucks too. |
It seems to vary widely from forum to forum over there. I originally joined a few years back because they have a few knowledgeable guys on the FE engine forum, and I wanted to pick their brains while I was putting the Monterey engine together.
When I bought the F-150 I stopped by the 90's truck forum on there. Nothing but morons. Hell, a topic on whether or not to let your e-brake snap up went like three or four pages.
oilburners.net seems to have a lot of IDI guys on there |
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91RSVert Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:16 am Post subject: |
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QwkTrip wrote: | By the way, welcome to the Cascade Crew Ford diesel club. |
I guess I am the only one with a Chebby Diesel? ![Confused](images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) _________________ 2008 GMC Z71
1991 Camaro RS Vert
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IROCDave Member
Joined: 16 Jan 2010 Posts: 957 Location: Snohomish WA
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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2nd official member of the bowtie diesel club. 03 cc duramax. |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
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Joined: 13 Jan 2004 Posts: 9191 Location: Auburn , WA
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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I work on these all day, does this count?
![](http://www.duemotori.com/foto/2009/32475/thumbs400/1.jpg) _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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Twilightoptics wrote: | I work on these all day, does this count?
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It does when you stick it in an chevy luv! ![Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Heh a 16L I6 isn't going to fit in a luv! _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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chevymad Master B
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Just weld the panels to it? hehe |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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rjmcgee The Hammer
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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All that work I wouldn't put a Volvo in it. ![Get down and Boogie!](images/smiles/boogie.gif) |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
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Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 6:07 pm Post subject: |
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Stock 750HP/2250lbft?
LOL
Actually I wouldn't put anything that big in for performance. The powerband isn't usable for the transmissions available to make it "Fast."
It'd be quick as $hit... and you would be just as fast with your house in tow... but not fast. _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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91RSVert Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:45 am Post subject: |
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Twlight, how many gallons of oil does that thing hold? |
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Twilightoptics Hardcore (12sec Club)
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 5:16 am Post subject: |
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Um I forget. Actually haven't done a service on them yet. I know the motor alone weighs 2500lbs! _________________ A redline a day keeps the carbon away! |
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aaron_sK Member
Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 8834 Location: Back in beautiful Tacompton
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:08 am Post subject: |
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Total capacity: 55 qts.
Filters: 2 full-flow, 1 bypass
Oil change interval: 20,000mi severe duty, 35,000mi standard duty
That's a hell of a motor, Paul. ![Shocked](images/smiles/icon_eek.gif) |
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