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fiveoformula
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject: Bird headlights Reply with quote

I have been living with the pop-ups not working for long enough. Whats the best way to fix these things? the motors run and the lights will twitch for a minute then give up. I was checking out TDS's rebuild kit, is that the way to go?

http://www.top-downsolutions.com/product_info.php?cPath=35&products_id=87

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GREG DAVIDSON
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just hope its not the switch on the firewall its disscontinued and exensive as hell tap on it with the light switch on and see what happens and if you get that kit let me know how it works
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's the rebuild kit I used for both of mine. Took maybe an hour, hour and a half to do both lights. What took the longest was cleaning the remainder of those nylon bushings out of the motors. IIRC, one motor is easier than the other because of the orientation of the gears but it wasn't difficult at all.

I don't think I could live with the popups not working for more than a few hours. Laughing I hate that redneck look. I don't want to have to bust out my mullet wig.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On mine I just cleaned out the pieces of the bushings then filled the whole thing with jbweld. Been working fine for almost 10 years now.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used a rubber hose for the bushings and it works great!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol at the JBweld and hose! I've been flipping them up and down by hand everyday for about 4 years lol, So I broke down and ordered the kit, it'll take about 5 daysto get here. Ill let you guys know how well it works.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love JB Weld!!! I fix transmissions, stoves, plastic trim parts, arm rests, modify firebird heater controls to take LED's, intake manifolds.............you name it!!! Great stuff, better than sliced bread Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When we tested the lights on my T/A, the driver side worked fine but the passenger side required a slight nudge on that little dial/knob thing and then it opened just fine. What causes this? Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JB weld...good stuff, has fixed holes in my intake. Probably not the same brand, but my dad gets similar stuff from Boeing.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RSFreak wrote:
When we tested the lights on my T/A, the driver side worked fine but the passenger side required a slight nudge on that little dial/knob thing and then it opened just fine. What causes this? Confused

Probably the shreads of the nylon bushings gunking everything up. That seems to be the main reason the motors fail.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiveoformula wrote:
RSFreak wrote:
When we tested the lights on my T/A, the driver side worked fine but the passenger side required a slight nudge on that little dial/knob thing and then it opened just fine. What causes this? Confused

Probably the shreads of the nylon bushings gunking everything up. That seems to be the main reason the motors fail.


It doesn't seem to be stuck though. One little nudge and it pops up just like it should. And it closes with no problem.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol before mine were totally finished, they would flicker going up or down and sometimes they would lock if I was lucky. lol
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Complete sucess! My lights work flawlessly now! I cannot believe I procrastinated that long with these things.
Anyone with a bird thats got motors that spin but won't go up, just buy this kit. I could rebuild 100 of them a day, easy stuff. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RSFreak wrote:

It doesn't seem to be stuck though. One little nudge and it pops up just like it should. And it closes with no problem.


My black trim piece on the headlight was getting stuck on the bumper. I used to have to bump it to get it up too! Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

popballz wrote:
I used to have to bump it to get it up too! Wink


Whoa there buddy, this is not that kinda thread... Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2010 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiveoformula wrote:
popballz wrote:
I used to have to bump it to get it up too! Wink


Whoa there buddy, this is not that kinda thread... Laughing

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:57 pm    Post subject: Source Reply with quote

I agree with fiveoformula This is the best place to get the parts to fix the firebird headlight motor.

http://www.top-downsolutions.com/product_info.php?cPath=35&products_id=87

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